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To: kabar
We invaded Iraq, Afghanistan, and Syria, to name a few. We overthrew the recognized governments of Iraq, Libya, and Afghanistan. And supported regime change in Syria. We came up with our own justification.

Each of these countries was led by Totalitarian regimes hostile to the United States and Israel.

Regardless about whether it was wise to attempt nation building or not, killing Saddam or taking out the Taliban is hardly the same thing as Russia gang raping little girls in Bucha because Ukraine, a free country, refused to be enslaved by the Neo-USSR.

Due to the stream of lies fed to us by Russia and its agents in the West about Ukraine, I am no longer willing to believe what we have heard about Syria or Libya that comes from these same sources, including claims that the WMD attacks on Syrian civilians were "false flags."

Unfortunately, my research is far from complete, but I suspect we have been lied to for years on many different issues.

45 posted on 04/15/2022 6:02:21 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
Each of these countries was led by Totalitarian regimes hostile to the United States and Israel.

Is that the criterion for invading sovereign countries? Do you have any understanding of how many countries that encompasses or the violation of international law and custom?

Regardless about whether it was wise to attempt nation building or not, killing Saddam or taking out the Taliban is hardly the same thing as Russia gang raping little girls in Bucha because Ukraine, a free country, refused to be enslaved by the Neo-USSR.

How many civilians were killed in Iraq including children? Afghanistan? Syria? Vietnam?

Unfortunately, my research is far from complete, but I suspect we have been lied to for years on many different issues.

That's precisely my point. The American public is being dragged into another war without having all the facts. Anyone who questions these lies is canceled or demonized. The reaction on this thread by some people to the views of a retired Swiss Colonel reflects how much we have been brainwashed. We must question everything. The war in Ukraine could have been avoided.

50 posted on 04/15/2022 6:13:20 PM PDT by kabar
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Do you have proof of Russian soldiers raping little girls in Bucha or do you blindly believe everything you read? I’ve heard the same stories but it was the Ukrainian troops doing the raping and killing. That’s the textbook definition of propaganda. There’s no evidence it even happened but ppl decide to believe whichever side they’ve already allied themselves with. Then they think they actually “know the facts.” 🤣


53 posted on 04/15/2022 6:18:27 PM PDT by Prince of Space ( Let’s go, Brandon! )
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