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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
Each of these countries was led by Totalitarian regimes hostile to the United States and Israel.

Is that the criterion for invading sovereign countries? Do you have any understanding of how many countries that encompasses or the violation of international law and custom?

Regardless about whether it was wise to attempt nation building or not, killing Saddam or taking out the Taliban is hardly the same thing as Russia gang raping little girls in Bucha because Ukraine, a free country, refused to be enslaved by the Neo-USSR.

How many civilians were killed in Iraq including children? Afghanistan? Syria? Vietnam?

Unfortunately, my research is far from complete, but I suspect we have been lied to for years on many different issues.

That's precisely my point. The American public is being dragged into another war without having all the facts. Anyone who questions these lies is canceled or demonized. The reaction on this thread by some people to the views of a retired Swiss Colonel reflects how much we have been brainwashed. We must question everything. The war in Ukraine could have been avoided.

50 posted on 04/15/2022 6:13:20 PM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar
Is that the criterion for invading sovereign countries?

Now hold on a minute: you are defending the Russian invasion of Ukraine.

Ukraine is not a totalitarian regime, although you have attempted to paint it in the worst light possible.

Ukrainian women and children are being raped in documented cases across the country.

Clearly you are not against the invasion of "sovereign countries," so why are you offended?

My only point is that Iraq/Afghanistan were objectively evil, so your attempt to paint the USA as a villain is false.

We can be wrong. We can make big mistakes. We can accidentally kill civilians in wars that were a waste of time--not due to the wickedness of our intentions, but the corruption of the people who lived there. But is killing Saddam morally the same as Russia invading Ukraine? Absolutely not!

That's precisely my point. The American public is being dragged into another war without having all the facts.

You are not providing facts here. You are providing lies that are not new at all to this forum. They have been repeated constantly since February, over and over again.

55 posted on 04/15/2022 6:23:29 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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