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Retired Swiss Military-Intelligence Officer: 'Is it Possible to Actually Know What Has Been And is Going on in Ukraine?'
The Unz Review ^ | Sat, 02 Apr 2022 | Jacques Baud

Posted on 04/15/2022 4:27:56 PM PDT by kabar

For years, from Mali to Afghanistan, I have worked for peace and risked my life for it. It is therefore not a question of justifying war, but of understanding what led us to it.

Let's try to examine the roots of the Ukrainian conflict. It starts with those who for the last eight years have been talking about "separatists" or "independentists" from Donbass. This is a misnomer. The referendums conducted by the two self-proclaimed Republics of Donetsk and Lugansk in May 2014, were not referendums of "independence" (независимость), as some unscrupulous journalists have claimed, but referendums of "self-determination" or "autonomy" (самостоятельность). The qualifier "pro-Russian" suggests that Russia was a party to the conflict, which was not the case, and the term "Russian speakers" would have been more honest. Moreover, these referendums were conducted against the advice of Vladimir Putin.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: ukraine
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

It’s funny. As I was reading the original article I kept thinking, I’m being led down the garden path. The writer seems overanxious to point out the nobility and restraint of Putin. I react to that the way I do to comparing Zelensky to Churchill- they’re both utter nonsense.


81 posted on 04/16/2022 6:10:30 AM PDT by SE Mom
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To: kabar

good article,thanks for posting


82 posted on 04/16/2022 7:10:02 AM PDT by CarolinaReaganFan
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To: kabar
We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false. - William J. Casey, Director of CIA, 1981-1987


83 posted on 04/16/2022 8:15:47 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Anyone, who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.!" ~ (Voltaire)!!!)
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To: MercyFlush

I’ve figured out they’re a problem, as are you, Globo.


84 posted on 04/16/2022 8:51:36 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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To: kabar
"So what’s the answer? Send in US troops to defend the sovereignty of Ukraine?"
So what’s the answer? I don't know. Maybe if Hitler had been content with just the Sudetenland and the Koenigsberg Prussian area, the world would have been a better place. I don't know the underlying motives of either side. My emotional response is, "A pox on both their houses!"
85 posted on 04/16/2022 9:40:57 AM PDT by Hiddigeigei ("Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish," said Dionysus - Euripides)
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To: Navy Patriot

If by ‘globo’ you mean I’m opposed to Russian imperialism then I bear the label with pride.

And if I pose some sort of impediment or problem to the goal of Russian imperialism then that too makes me pretty happy.


86 posted on 04/16/2022 10:04:00 AM PDT by MercyFlush (The Soviet Empire is right now doing a dead cat bounce.)
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