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Russia's 'broken arrow': Fears that NUCLEAR MISSILES sank with Putin's flagship Moskva amid claims that 452 of the 510 crew have drowned and top admiral has been arrested after cruiser was 'hit by Ukrainian missile'
Daily Mail ^ | 4/15/2022 | Will Stewart

Posted on 04/15/2022 6:06:41 AM PDT by marcusmaximus

Russia's Black Sea flagship which sank yesterday after an explosion on board may have been carrying nuclear warheads, analysts and experts have warned today, as a Russian politician said more than 400 sailors could have gone down with the ship.

The Moskva, a Soviet-era guided missile cruiser, sank near the port of Sevastopol on Thursday after Ukraine said it hit the ship with two cruise missiles. Today, Mykhailo Samus, director of a Lviv-based military think-tank; Andriy Klymenko, editor of Black Sea News; and Ukrainian newspaper Defence Express all warned that the Moskva could have been carrying two nuclear warheads designed to be fitted to its P-1000 'carrier killer' missiles.

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To: ScottfromNJ

This is what Putin is attacking. This is who his perverse actions are against the most.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBkx76Pu13k

He is not attacking Soros or Saks Fifth Avenue. He is not killing globalists or money launderers. Or corrupt politicians. He is attacking and killing everyday civilians. Innocent people. Nobodies. The poor, the old, the sick and weak among them.

Show me where the Ukrainians or even globalists are doing anything like what he is doing.


181 posted on 04/15/2022 12:16:27 PM PDT by Justa (If where you came from is so great then why aren't Floridians moving there?)
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To: Antioch

Thank you. Truth is better than lies.


182 posted on 04/15/2022 12:17:46 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Don't worry about anything. Worry has never solved any problem or moved any stone. )
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To: Justa

You are posting pure, unadulterated bullshit propaganda.

Amazing how many freepers are completely taken in by such bullshit.


183 posted on 04/15/2022 12:19:20 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Don't worry about anything. Worry has never solved any problem or moved any stone. )
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To: CodeToad; rrrod

I’m not supporting either of the leaders. I pray for the victims of the war on both sides. Both of those countries need to be reformed. Putin needs to be put on trial.


184 posted on 04/15/2022 12:32:55 PM PDT by Deplorable American1776 (I'm the ones trying to save American Democracy...Donald Trump 6/21 at the NCGOP convention! )
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To: dennisw

The Ukes built the ship, knew its weaknesses and exploited same.


185 posted on 04/15/2022 12:37:52 PM PDT by AppyPappy (Biden told Al Roker "America is back". Unfortunately, he meant back to the 1970's)
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To: Red Badger

Okay...that is funny!


186 posted on 04/15/2022 12:41:35 PM PDT by MercyFlush (The Soviet Empire is right now doing a dead cat bounce.)
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To: redgolum
The US will be ok.

The holier-than-thou virtue-signaler who is so concerned about Ukraine doesn't give flying fig about starvation in the third world, as long as he's got his.

187 posted on 04/15/2022 12:44:22 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Depopulate the depopulationists. --FJB)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Good Gawd you are everything the kooks on the left say about us.


188 posted on 04/15/2022 12:46:07 PM PDT by pburgh01
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

They probably figure Russian nukes are no good either and if a few happen to slip through, so be it. Pretty monstrous if you ask me.


189 posted on 04/15/2022 12:49:38 PM PDT by Tipllub
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To: marcusmaximus

True... I’d wonder how the Socialist Media would treat Ronnie... Worse than Trump I’d say!!


190 posted on 04/15/2022 12:50:27 PM PDT by Deplorable American1776 (I'm the ones trying to save American Democracy...Donald Trump 6/21 at the NCGOP convention! )
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To: CarolinaReaganFan

No shock that the rubles for Russia’s navy ended up going to Russia’s fleet of superyachts.


191 posted on 04/15/2022 12:53:20 PM PDT by MercyFlush (The Soviet Empire is right now doing a dead cat bounce.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

“Ukraine has been the criminal enterprise playground of the likes of the Bidens and George Soros for decades.”

Interesting you say that because Ukraine had been applying to join the European Union and accession to the EU requires these conditions of applicant nations:

1) it must be a European state;
2) it must respect the common values of the Member States and undertake to promote them. These are human dignity, freedom, democracy, equality, the rule of law and respect for human rights, including the rights of persons belonging to minorities (Article 2 of the Treaty on European Union).

Ukraine was on path to cleaning up corruption, passing laws to give strength to contracts, establishing a truly independent judiciary, establishing civil rights, and economic rights.

They were actually well ahead of Turkey in this process. So at the least they were TRYING to get rid of corruption.

Russia, in the same time frame, built an oligarch fleet of superyachts whose gross tonnage and cost eclipsed that of the Russian navy. Oh, and Russia invaded Ukraine to put an end to all that “rule of law” nonsense that makes the Russian dictator look bad.


192 posted on 04/15/2022 1:07:01 PM PDT by MercyFlush (The Soviet Empire is right now doing a dead cat bounce.)
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To: pburgh01
They told us what they are going to do to us.

How do you think they plan on getting to a global population of 500,000,000 by 2030?




193 posted on 04/15/2022 1:08:52 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Depopulate the depopulationists. --FJB)
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To: Deplorable American1776

They treated President Reagan terribly back in the day.


194 posted on 04/15/2022 1:11:22 PM PDT by marcusmaximus
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To: MercyFlush

And they got turned down flat because they don’t qualify by a long shot.

Odd you didn’t mention that.


195 posted on 04/15/2022 1:20:03 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Depopulate the depopulationists. --FJB)
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To: rrrod

“Your nuts.”

Just out of curiosity - What about his nuts?


196 posted on 04/15/2022 1:31:10 PM PDT by Nik Naym (It's not my fault... I have compulsive smart-ass disorder. )
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To: AppyPappy

“The Ukes built the ship, knew its weaknesses, and exploited same.”

Good news! The two missiles were fired off from Odessa. From my maps they traveled 24 miles to hit the Moskva.


197 posted on 04/15/2022 1:32:05 PM PDT by dennisw
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To: G Larry
.This is war porn, there were no nukes on that ship

might be.

The Russians have artillery fired nukes as part of their doctrine for artillery support or area denial in case of overwhelming opposition.

That's the real problem. What will we do if someone in the field decides to send 2-3 low yield nukes into Germany and the Baltics.

I was wondering what you or others thought our response would be.......... then what their response to that would be....... then our response to their response....

Then China, NK, India, Pakistan, Israel's response to three salvos of nukes?

I'm really wondering what all the war "supporters" of Russia and Ukraine think will happen if "limited" nuclear weapons are used? Not the air-fuel kaboomers but actual nuclear artillery shells.

198 posted on 04/15/2022 1:32:21 PM PDT by Dick Vomer (2 Timothy 4:7 deo duce ferro comitantes)
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To: marcusmaximus
Given the state of Russian weaponry, I'm surprised there wasn't an accidental detonation of a nuclear warhead during the Soviet Union era--let alone now! Can you imagine what would have happened if the Ukrainian missile strike hit one of the missiles on the Moskva in a way that it triggered off the 350 kT nuclear warhead on one of the missiles?
199 posted on 04/15/2022 1:38:48 PM PDT by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's Economic Cure)
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To: Phinneous; SJackson
Russia's 'broken arrow':

Speaking of which, on April 3 I had posted that I'd been meaning to write a thread about that broken letter as it related to the name Jerusalem.

>>>

Although nuclear chain reactions had been hypothesized in 1933 and the first artificial self-sustaining nuclear chain reaction (Chicago Pile-1) had taken place in December 1942,[1] the Trinity test and the ensuing bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki that ended World War II represented the first large-scale use of nuclear technology and ushered in profound changes in sociopolitical thinking and the course of technological development."

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What I had never gotten around to posting, was that as a "harpoon", the letter vav [ו] looks like this arrow:

21BF
UPWARDS HARPOON
WITH BARB LEFTWARDS

Thus by extension the broken vav is a broken arrow.

And it is located in the word "shalom":

The broken vav- vav k'tia

Throughout the halachah it is stressed that letters must be written as a complete guf (body) except the kuf and heh which do have breaks (though didn't used to in the past). Also if letters are faded or partly illegible then the work is pasul (invalid).

However there is one exception were the scribe is mandated to make the letter incomplete. The letter in question in the vav in the word shalom in Numbers 25:12...

 

It's an important point because in Native American cultures, a broken arrow symbolizes peace.

(It's a small world after all.)

And then in the layers of meanings in the name Jerusalem, is "seek double peace", the "teaching of peace" and so forth. The seeking and teaching verbs are rooted in yara [י-ר-ה].

This page has a good listing of its offshoots.

to shoot, to fire
to teach, to lead, to instruct
shooting, firing
teaching, theory; Torah
to be shot (by someone)
teacher, instructor

As used in the Bible, for the shooting of arrows. Double peace: a "broken arrow" within "shalom":

shil-loh

200 posted on 04/15/2022 1:39:26 PM PDT by Ezekiel ("Come fly with US". Ingenuity -- because the Son of David begins with Mars ♂️.)
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