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To: MinorityRepublican

>But to openly support Russia in brutalizing the population of Ukraine resisting against tyrannical Russian rule.

I don’t think anyone here is glorifying Russia, but the result is going to be the same whether the war takes a couple of weeks or a couple of months - Putin will take Donbass and make Ukraine sign a neutrality pledge. The point is now humans on both sides are being killed, and the media and NATO’s howling are simply stacking the bodies higher.

The media can dream all they want about Russia being beaten by the underdog, but Putin really is aiming for AZOV. You take out AZOV and Zelensky can negotiate without those neonazis stabbing him to death in the street (which they probably will once the treaty is signed, anyway).


29 posted on 04/12/2022 6:38:49 PM PDT by struggle
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To: struggle

What putinist rot you talking about, Azov army ??

Azov is a tiny number of people.

Less than 1% of their military, and less than 2% of the population voting for candidates of that nature.

in the Ukrainian Parliament, the Ukrainian Rada, these parties did not pass the 5% barrier in the last elections. The Russian imperialists and the Russian aggressor call every Ukrainian a “Nazi” who loves his native language, the history of his people, who loves Ukraine and wants Ukraine to be free. In the eyes of the Russian imperial, a “Nazi” is every person who wants to live in his own separate state, his home, on the land of his ancestors and who does not suffer from the imperialism that Russian imperials suffer from. In the eyes of the Russian imperial, even a Russian-speaking Ukrainian who wants to live in a free democratic Ukraine is a “Nazi” only because he does not want to be in Russian slavery, in a Russian barn and on a Russian chain.

Considering Russia has presented absolutely no credible evidence to back up those claims, it’s fairly obvious that they’re fabricated. This is further reinforced by the fact that the Kremlin kept changing their minds on their reasons for attacking Ukraine as time went on: they were supporting the independence of Donetsk and Luhansk, then they were taking on the Nazis, then they were rescuing Russian ‘hostages’…the list went on, and was getting considerably less believable with each lie.

Ukraine’s own resistance to Russia rather demonstrates the absence of any Fascists or Nazis present in the country: if Ukraine’s government were fascist in nature, they’d be siding with the Russians, not fighting against them. Such individuals want an authoritarian government of the sort that Putin would install - and, let’s be honest, he’s pretty Fascist in nature himself, so it’s doubtful he’d see modern Nazis as anything other than allies. Let’s not forget that he’s aligned himself with certain American individuals and groups that are similarly-oriented.

At the end of the day, Vladimir Putin simply wishes to restore the power, prestige and territorial holdings of the former USSR, imagining that doing so would place him on a pedestal next to Vladimir Lenin and Joseph Stalin: influential leaders who turned an agrarian nation into a global superpower. Invading and annexing Ukraine was simply the next thing on his tick list, and with certain parties in the US having significantly undermined the NATO alliance, he felt now would be the best time to do so, not anticipating the level of resistance and sanctions that have been the response of the rest of the world.

It’s got nothing to do with Nazis, and never did. That was merely an excuse, and not one that anyone outside particularly indoctrinated circles would be likely to buy into.


85 posted on 04/12/2022 10:27:37 PM PDT by Cronos
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