Posted on 04/12/2022 3:01:07 AM PDT by Kaslin
Let’s face it: “fascism” and “tribalism” are two scare words that our modern ruling classes like to use when it’s time to lock down the peasants.
Over at the American Spectator they at least have the decency to note that both sides use the “fascism” canard.
One side that thinks we’re on the threshold of fascism and the other side thinks we’re on the threshold of fascism.
And at Quillette the experts are equivocal about “The Costs and Benefits of Tribalism -- a Roundtable.”
Yes. What exactly is “fascism?” And what is “tribalism?”
Fascism emerged in Germany and Italy in the political and economic chaos after World War I. Both countries had a socialist political party that was advocating for economic revolution. In Germany, defeat led to the assumption of power by the Social Democratic Party, but it was immediately challenged by lefty firebrands like Karl Liebknecht and Rosa Luxemberg. And the socialists allowed hyperinflation to rage for years until it was stopped in its tracks in November 1923 by Hjalmar Schacht. Then everything was fine until it wasn’t, in the Wall Street Crash in 1929. So the Germans voted in 1933 for Adolf Hitler to make it stop. By the way, the socialists had their “Reichsbanner Schwarz-Rot-Gold” street thugs just as the Nazis had their Sturmabteilung.
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When the left claims facism, they are not only lying but incorrect. When the right does it, they are not only telling the truth, but correct.
Calling Hitler a nativist, is not quite correct. He was a subset of nativism. He was a traditionalist. Traditionalists think life was better in a previous time and seek to replicate that time. Putin, for example, is trying to replicate the Soviet Union, because he thinks it’s dissolution was a catastrophic error.
When the left talks about cultural appropriation, they are making a traditionalist argument.
1932 Antifa Conference in Germany.

The article seems a bit muddled to me, but maybe I need more coffee.
For me the whole thing always boils down to Collectivism. The Left-wing philosophies are always Collectivist. They do not care about individual rights and natural law. They care about the groups. Marxists speak of Class War. Nazis speak of racial groups. Progressives speak of privileged and unprivileged. Fascists supported ruling elites over the people who needed to be ruled. It’s always “this group” over “that group”.
Tribalism and Fascism and two names for group ideology, but everything on the Left is always exactly this.
If you value the rights of the individual, you avoid the entire mess.
The Left has redefined fascism as nationalism. In other words, if you don’t want to see your country destroyed by uncontrolled illegal immigration, multiculturalism, and communism, you’re a fascist.
“...Traditionalists think life was better in a previous time and seek to replicate that time. Putin, for example, is trying to replicate the Soviet Union, because he thinks it’s dissolution was a catastrophic error.
When the left talks about cultural appropriation, they are making a traditionalist argument.
That’s an excellent point and it’s a good argument but that argument has two sides to it. A rebuttal would easily turn it around and say the same thing about MAGA being a traditionalist argument.
What would Bill Buckley say?
As American as apple pie:
Yeah a word that is meaningless. Once a left wing phrase, We now have RW Putards calling Ukrainian Nationalists opposed to the invasion of their country “fascists”
How did the word “Fascism” become the standard when NAZISM was the real problem.
The Fascists were the party of Mussolini.
Maybe it is because there is no difference between National Socialism and Communist Socialism. Two wings of the same bird.
“Controversial problems [between Germany and Russia] did not, in my opinion, exist anywhere along the line from the Baltic Sea to the Black Sea and to the Far East.
In addition, despite all the divergencies in their views of life, there was one thing common to the ideology of Germany, Italy and the Soviet Union: opposition to the capitalist democracies in the West.”—Julius Schnurre, Nazi trade rep to Russia.
Rise and Fall of the Third Reich by Shirer. Page 501 in my copy,
Never met a (truthful) German who was an adolescent or an adult in the 1930s who wouldn't tell me "the best years of our lives".
Never met a communist refugee or an Eastern Bloc person who would ever come close to saying that.
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