Posted on 04/09/2022 9:22:41 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum
We are seeing an uptake in cardiac arrest cases in athletes ages 20-25, however.
Thx for the link to that. I’ve not ever taken the time to watch it until now.
It’s not possible to refute your point, which is a big problem.
SmokingJoe wrote: “Almost all newly infected and covid deaths are from the covid vaccinated.”
The relevant criteria is cases per hundred thousands not totals.
SmokingJoe wrote: “The “vaccines” simply don’t work, don’t stop infections/transmission, don’t stop hospitalization, don’t stop deaths from covid etc.”
Please provide a list of vaccines that are 100% effective.
SmokingJoe wrote: “So just what are they supposed to do?”
Just what they are doing: reducing infections, illnesses, hospitalizations and deaths.
That's not the point.
The point is we now have a covid vaccine where the unvaccinated get infected and DIE LESS from covidvthannthe vaccinated, mostly because the unvaccinated like me, have acquired natural immunity, having been exposed to it hundreds of times.
Natural immunity easily trumps any “protection” you may get from that ineffective “vaccines”.
Just what they are doing: reducing infections, illnesses, hospitalizations and deaths.
They are just not doing that. Right now, you are better off without vaccines than with the covid vaccines which have all sorts of terrible side effects including death.
The covid “vaccines” are mostly putting billions of dollars in Pfizer's and the Dems pockets though.
Herd ‘em up
Ride ‘em in
Shoot’em up
Covid listing of incidents by age 18 years and younger
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/info-by-product/pfizer/reactogenicity.html
SmokingJoe wrote: “They are just not doing that. Right now, you are better off without vaccines than with the covid vaccines which have all sorts of terrible side effects including death. The covid “vaccines” are mostly putting billions of dollars in Pfizer’s and the Dems pockets though.”
Simply incorrect. Anti-vaxxers like to talk about total infections and avoid the real criteria which is infection rates.
CDC: COVID-19 hospitalizations up to 23 times higher for unvaccinated in Los Angeles
and this:
News
Covid-19: Unvaccinated face 11 times risk of death from delta variant, CDC data show
https://www.bmj.com/content/374/bmj.n2282
Vaccinated people are majority of COVID cases, hospitalizations, and deaths in Australian state
LifeSite News ^ | Feb 2, 2022 | Raymond Wolfe
Posted on 03/02/2022, 03:24:35 by george76
Unvaccinated people were less than one percent of recent COVID cases in New South Wales..
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4034974/posts
No need to go drag out even more fake, discredited CDC figures.
SmokingJoe wrote: “Just an ordinary search right here on Freerepublic will show you how the covid unvaccinated are doing much better than the vaccinated :”
Joe, those are total cases. The groups are not the same size. If you want to know which group is doing better, then you have to compare rates between the groups.
BTW, immunune deficiency issues might show up in other ways in addition to communicable diseases. Cancers, for instance.
The stats are crap. All of them.
Take case stats, for example. NYS counts probables, asymptomatics, repeat positives of the same patient as new cases. There’s no transparency about the cycle threshold/s in use to determine positivity.
Then there’s the bluring of who counts as vaxxed/fully vaxxed.
Then there’s the death stats. From, with, probable, complete BS.
All of the CoupFlu data we have needs an audit.
Until then, I’d argue, it’s useless to compare anything.
mewzilla wrote: “The stats are crap. All of them.”
Including the stats the anti-vaxxers like to quote? Like total cases versus case rates? Quite frankly, condemning the stats is a handy excuse to avoid the truth.
Except the link I posted in my post #30 was percentages, with less than 1 % of hospitalizations and deaths from unvaccinated and the rest, the 9overwhelming majority from the fully vaccinated.
SmokingJoe wrote: “Except the link I posted in my post #30 was percentages, with less than 1 % of hospitalizations and deaths from unvaccinated and the rest, the 9overwhelming majority from the fully vaccinated.”
Percentages aren’t rates. The criteria should be cases per hundred thousand.
Look at it this way. You’re objective is to minimize the odds that you’ll get the virus.
Suppose their are 10,000 vaccinated and 5000 unvaccinated. Suppose further that there are 500 cases, 300 vaccinated and 200 unvaccinated. The percentages: 2/3 of the cases are vaccinated and only 1/3 are unvaccinated. These are the numbers commonly cited by the anti-vaxxers when they claim the chances of getting infected are much higher among the vaccinated. However, the rate of infection among the vaccinated is 0.03 and the rate of infection among the unvaccinated is 0.04. IOW, the chances of a unvaccinated person catching covid is 1.333 times the chances of a vaccinated person.
total numbers are only good for comparison when the vaccinated and unvaccinated populations are of approximately equal size.
Do you see why talking total cases isn’t as important as case rates.?
Do you see why those talking total cases are misleading you? Now why would they do that? And, more importantly, why would you let them?
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