Posted on 04/09/2022 6:30:23 AM PDT by Timber Rattler
As the staging ground for an assault on the Ukrainian capital of Kyiv, the Chernobyl Exclusion Zone, one of the most toxic places on earth, was probably not the best choice. But that did not seem to bother the Russian generals who took over the site in the early stages of the war.
“We told them not to do it, that it was dangerous, but they ignored us,” Valeriy Simyonov, the chief safety engineer for the Chernobyl nuclear site, said in an interview.
Apparently undeterred by safety concerns, the Russian forces tramped about the grounds with bulldozers and tanks, digging trenches and bunkers — and exposing themselves to potentially harmful doses of radiation lingering beneath the surface.
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At just one site of extensive trenching a few hundred yards outside the town of Chernobyl, the Russian army had dug an elaborate maze of sunken walkways and bunkers. An abandoned armored personnel carrier sat nearby.
The soldiers had apparently camped out for weeks in the radioactive forest. While international nuclear safety experts say they have not confirmed any cases of radiation sickness among the soldiers, the cancers and other potential health problems associated with radiation exposure might not develop until decades later.
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In a particularly ill-advised action, a Russian soldier from a chemical, biological and nuclear protection unit picked up a source of cobalt-60 at one waste storage site with his bare hands, exposing himself to so much radiation in a few seconds that it went off the scales of a Geiger counter, Mr. Simyonov said. It was not clear what happened to the man, he said.
(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...
Puh-leeze!
Do you know how stupid that sounds?
The conspiracy theorists around here have lost their collective marbles!
The number of people affected especially if you count contaminated products being distributed to an unsuspecting public especially during the 1950s was greater than what the article you linked to alluded to. One of the primary vectors were dairy products from cows who were fed contaminated hay and alfalfa grown in areas which were contaminated.
You didn’t answer my question. You were lied to and don’t seem to mind.
The ability to have an intellegent discussion on this forum has disappeared.
He’s an expert. He surely knew what he was doing. /s
Or maybe the Democrat server from 2020??
:-)
A little information on the stupid things people do when dealing with radioactive sources, many of whom should have known better:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_civilian_radiation_accidents
Thank you for confirming that it was the same story.
I have never said one positive thing in this forum about Putin. He is a dictator, possibly terminally ill who has the ability to push the big red button. You are attacking me based on completely groundless conjecture. Please check my posting history by clicking on my name. Pretty funny but not surprising from someone who feels morally superior for using a link from the slimes rather than a “no-name overseas blog site”.
I hate to tell you... but you are batting a thousand today... World News Era is a legitimate site based in the United States. Next time do just a tiny bit of research before spouting more easily disproved nonsense that further discredits your reputation. As far as your accusation that it was “stollen” from the slimes... I have not bothered to research that, but it could also have been purchased from the same source. Do you think the slimes has boots on the ground in Chernobyl? I am sure you probably do... so never mind.
That is an understatement, but in response to the OP maybe not in the way that you seem to believe. Oh, and the proper spelling is “intelligent”... kind of ironic.
My thought is the Ukrainian first peace proposal is to their requirement is to give back the caretaking of the soviet mistake to the russians who want to remake the Soviet Empire.
The New Soviets need to own all the old Soviets problems.
Do you believe that the guy trained in nuclear protection doesn’t know what Chernobyl is?
I believe the conscripts in the satellite (old soviet) states are that dumb, yes. Back in the 70s and 80s it was known that Russian soldiers would take sterno, intended for keeping warm on those cold Siberian nights, and strain it to make grain alcohol so they could get drunk. Many died of poisoning from such stupidity.
How many stupid millennials do you know?
“bulldozers and tanks, digging trenches and bunkers “
NOT a good idea.
Truly a ‘hold ma beer and watch this’ moment
No doubt you have seen the maps of the effected area around the NV test site, and other areas.
Funny thing that map..it does not include most of Mohave Co AZ or Las Vegas NV and most Clark co. I wonder why.
I personally know people in this area that were/are effected from radiation form those tests. One lady has had over 20 in her family that have had, or died, from cancers.
Matter of fact, on those same maps, they include where I grew up and as a youngster in school-NE WI, we were given potassium iodide pills. And told not to eat the snow because it had fallout in it...something us kids would do in the winter.
And the world would help them there and everywhere else!
Did you know that the 8th graders in Russia know math better than MIT sophomores?
“the cancers and other potential health problems associated with radiation exposure might not develop until decades later.”
NOT likely. The whole “cancer” scare was OVERBLOWN in the aftermath of the “accident”.
For a perspective see this (and many other photos today)
https://d32ki0dwi5pify.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/nagasakiharbor.jpg
First, I do not appreciate straw men.
Second, do you independently know for a fact that the chief safety engineer for the Chernobyl nuclear site is actually Valeriy Simyonov? Do you know for a fact that he held an interview? And if he did, do you know for a fact that he said “We told them not to do it, that it was dangerous, but they ignored us”? This is the New York Times here, and, being a major propaganda mouthpiece for the Deep State, they straight-up LIE. That is my issue here.
In this war we have already been subject to many false items - the Snake Island soldiers who were wiped out after telling the Russian warship to F themselves, the Ghost of Kiev who singlehandedly shot down a bunch of Russian fighters, etc. There is no reason to believe this story is any different.
The New York Times doesn’t report things because they want people to be aware of what is actually happening in the world, they report on things because they are trying to get people to believe certain things, including many falsehoods. (It is also why they don’t report on certain things, e.g. Hunter’s laptop.)
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