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Is the Bucha Massacre A Ukrainian False Flag?
Helleninscope ^ | 5 April 22 | Larry Johnson

Posted on 04/05/2022 4:27:48 PM PDT by delta7

Bucha is the latest shiny object that the Western cats are chasing mindlessly without taking time to think critically about what Russia is actually doing on the ground. Russia’s invasion on February 24 was not a classic military attack. What do I mean? If Russia was intent on conquering and subjugating Ukraine without regard to the fate of Ukrainian civilians it would have launched massive missile and airstrikes on all major cities, bridges, airfields, railroads and communication systems. It did not do that. Not my opinion.

The first phase of Russia’s special military operation consisted of the following:

Moved troops and armored columns into Ukraine from three directions–North, East and South. Deployed only 200,000 troops while maintaining key reserves inside Russia along the Ukrainian border against a Ukrainian Army estimated to number 600,000. Avoided attacking communication systems leaving cell phone and internet largely intact. Took control of the largest nuclear power plant in Europe–Zaporizhzhya Nuclear Power Plant–but kept the electricity flowing. Supported offensives by the Luhansk and Donetsk People’s Republics against Ukrainian forces in the East. Gradually surrounded Kiev from the North but did not fight any key battles to occupy outlying cities. Destroyed Ukrainian ground radar, key airfields and military bases in Western Ukraine with precision missiles. Sealed the southern coast of Ukraine with the Russian Navy. Launched an assault on Mariupol, a key Ukrainian port in the South, and systematically annihilated the neo-Nazi AZOV battalion (Russia now controls all of Mariupol except for the steel plant and continues to methodically eliminate the remaining defenders). The immediate effect of this operation divided and froze the Ukrainian Army in four geographical regions-North, South, East and West. During the first two weeks the Ukrainians and NATO did not know where Russia’s major blow would fall. Russia’s initial success in eliminating Ukraine’s Air Force as a combat effective unit and the destruction of key military bases and fuel depots made it impossible for Ukraine to dispatch reinforcements to Donbas and Mariupol.

During the past week Russia has effected a tactical redeployment of forces that originally surrounded Kiev. It is reported that those units moved west and are likely to be used as block force that will be part of a broader effort to defeat the bulk of the Ukraine Army now virtually surrounded in the eastern part of the Donbas.

With its limited ability to move troops or resupply frontline forces, Ukraine is relying on propaganda and information warfare to try to weaken Russia and entice NATO to join the fray. Here is a good summary of these efforts courtesy of Nighvision:

For instance, when the Russian POW torture video came out, it was Ukraine that cried “fake” until days later all western ‘authorities’ were forced to admit it was real. When the ‘maternity hospital’ false flag in Mariupol occurred, Kyiv supporters blamed Russia and once again Russia was the one proven right and vindicated when the pregnant girl at the center of it herself released an interview completely refuting Ukrainian lies, and stating that not only did Ukrainian soldiers turn the hospital into a barracks but stole the precious food from pregnant women and then shelled the hospital themselves. When Ukraine claimed Russia bombed an ‘innocent’ civilian mall, yet the very next moment the Russian MOD released detailed videos showing precisely how Ukrop forces positioned mobile artillery in the parking garage of the said ‘mall’. When Ukrops claimed Russia tried to blow up the Zaporizhzhia plant, yet security footage showed that as a Russian security force arrived, it was fired upon by an RPG from Ukrop positions in one of the administrative buildings of the plant. When the famed American journalist was killed in Irpin right outside Kiev a month ago, and all Ukrainian supporters shouted Russia, but the entire incident was quickly swept under the rug when the journalist’s own friend/companion in an interview stated they were fired upon by Ukrop troops at a Ukrop checkpoint miles away from the nearest Russian forces.


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To: delta7

“22,000 deaths by Ukrainian Territorial Defense forces, many Azov units, have been reported and are on record with the UN.”

Damn, for two months — at least — you all have been claiming 14,000 deaths by Ukrainian nationalsists. Now, it’s up to 22,000? What, did they just find a mass grave containing 8,000 bodies? Enquiring minds want to know.


41 posted on 04/05/2022 5:12:03 PM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: ought-six

Zelensky may not have known that what he was asking people to do could get them shot peremptoraily. At least I sure hope he didn;t know.

Illegal Combatant aka Unlawful Combatant:

“A person who engages in combat without meeting the requirements for a lawful belligerent according to the laws of war as specified in the Third Geneva Convention.”

Working off of menory here, so could be wrong, but one easy way to avoid being unlawful combatants is to wear uniforms.


42 posted on 04/05/2022 5:12:35 PM PDT by BenLurkin ((The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire. Or both.))
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To: Pelham

My dad was a WWII veteran in the 7th Army.
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Same stories from my father, 86th Infantry Div WW2. They were just “ stories”, then, until I participated in the Colombian drug wars and saw for myself. Both Uribe and the FARC committed atrocities, and both lied about them, and both accused each other.
Today’s “ kids” whom have never been in a war are getting sucked in by their “ emotions “, propaganda and don’t have the sense to realize western MSM has an agenda.
What bothers me is during Trump’s time, it was fact the news was FAKE, but now suddenly the brain dead want to believe the fake news…
Don’t get sucked in.


43 posted on 04/05/2022 5:13:19 PM PDT by delta7
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To: tlozo

“Both sides have committed atrocities,

BS. “

Only war criminals embed fighters and heavy weapons amongst civilians. It’s what Palestinians do.

Ukraine did that in every city.

They documented it in thousands of photos you can still see on the internet with a simple google search.

But stupid, corrupt asses such as yourself think it was righteous.

Ukraine committed 10X the war crimes of Russia.


44 posted on 04/05/2022 5:13:55 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: GreyFriar

The largest mass graves were in Hue.


45 posted on 04/05/2022 5:14:11 PM PDT by Monterrosa-24 (To the barricades !!!)
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To: DesertRhino

“When Russia called for a UN investigation of Bucha, the British government vetoed it.”

So, the logical question would be: WHY did they veto it? I have not seen any explanation, when surely one must have been raised.


46 posted on 04/05/2022 5:14:24 PM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: Mariner

Incredible bullshit.


47 posted on 04/05/2022 5:14:42 PM PDT by Houserino
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To: delta7

Except the Western leaders believe everything out of Ukraine and call Putin a war criminal.


48 posted on 04/05/2022 5:16:27 PM PDT by Rusty0604 (" When you can't make them see the light, make them feel the heat." -Ronald Reagan)
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To: Monterrosa-24

You are one person in a million who even cares how many die in Ukraine, much less who killed them.


49 posted on 04/05/2022 5:18:16 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: datura

You can attempt to obfuscate your Soviet leanings all you want. You lived and worked in Moscow for years - I get it. But don’t waste your time pretending to be unbiased. You’re not.
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Don’t forget my Ukrainian time. I found them to be much, much more corrupted than Ivan.
I have seen both sides, lived it, worked it, had my “feet in the trenches”. You and a great number of Americans have not, and are sucking up the western narrative.
As I have stated - both Zelensky and Vlad are corrupted and evil, support neither. There are no white hats in this regional conflict. Don’t get sucked in.


50 posted on 04/05/2022 5:19:19 PM PDT by delta7
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To: ought-six
“When Russia called for a UN investigation of Bucha, the British government vetoed it.” So, the logical question would be: WHY did they veto it? I have not seen any explanation, when surely one must have been raised.

Because it takes years for the UN to complete its investigation, like the Malaysian airline downing and then Russia refused to accept the results-like the Malaysian airline downing.

51 posted on 04/05/2022 5:22:10 PM PDT by tlozo (Trump-the Russian invasion of Ukraine is " truly a crime against humanity")
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To: ought-six; CrazyCatChick

“If Putin survives his disaster, he might want to get rid of the yes men and bring in some realists.”

But that is not the way of dictators.”

Putin is a realist, surrounded by realists. It’s the only counsel he receives. This is a good thing.

Realpolitik.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Realpolitik


52 posted on 04/05/2022 5:22:14 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: ought-six

The Authoritarian’s Dilemma.


53 posted on 04/05/2022 5:23:47 PM PDT by CrazyCatChick (DEATH POKE!)
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To: Houserino

“Incredible bullshit.”

Truth.

You’re just having an emotional reaction over the fact Russia is the invading force.

War crimes make no allowance for the aggressive force.

Ukraine committed 10X, at least, the war crimes that Russia has. It’s not even close.


54 posted on 04/05/2022 5:25:12 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: BenLurkin

In that part of the world they are known as partisans rather than “illegal combatants”. It wouldn’t be a surprise if every street in a town over 100,000 in Russia had a Krasny Partisan street.


55 posted on 04/05/2022 5:25:30 PM PDT by Hamiltonian
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To: Reaganez

Do you have a link to that positive proof?


56 posted on 04/05/2022 5:25:41 PM PDT by Rusty0604 (" When you can't make them see the light, make them feel the heat." -Ronald Reagan)
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To: delta7

No, but he should forever shut his mouth for calling the Russian crimes worse than the Holocaust.


57 posted on 04/05/2022 5:27:36 PM PDT by cowboyusa (America Cowboy up! )
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To: BenLurkin

“Illegal Combatant aka Unlawful Combatant: “A person who engages in combat without meeting the requirements for a lawful belligerent according to the laws of war as specified in the Third Geneva Convention.””

But nowhere in the Conventions are those terms (”Illegal Combatant or Unlawful Combatant”) defined. Indeed, the conventions pretty much state that non-military combatants are subject to the laws of their respective nations, and are not subject to international law as set forth in the Conventions.


58 posted on 04/05/2022 5:28:15 PM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: tlozo

Do you have absolute proof that was work of the Russians? I didn’t think so.


59 posted on 04/05/2022 5:28:33 PM PDT by Rusty0604 (" When you can't make them see the light, make them feel the heat." -Ronald Reagan)
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To: Mariner
Putin is a realist, surrounded by realists. It’s the only counsel he receives.

Lol. Sure thats why Putin's director of the Foreign Intelligence Service of Russia looks terrified and tongue tied with Putin.

Russian leader Vladimir Putin gave his stammering spy chief a tongue-lashing at a security council meeting Tuesday, schooling him in a discussion about Moscow recognizing the independence of two separatist-controlled regions of Ukraine.

https://nypost.com/2022/02/22/putin-lashes-out-at-russia-intelligence-chief-in-viral-video/

60 posted on 04/05/2022 5:29:10 PM PDT by tlozo (Trump-the Russian invasion of Ukraine is " truly a crime against humanity")
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