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Is the Bucha Massacre A Ukrainian False Flag?
Helleninscope ^ | 5 April 22 | Larry Johnson

Posted on 04/05/2022 4:27:48 PM PDT by delta7

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To: delta7

“22,000 deaths by Ukrainian Territorial Defense forces, many Azov units, have been reported and are on record with the UN.”

Damn, for two months — at least — you all have been claiming 14,000 deaths by Ukrainian nationalsists. Now, it’s up to 22,000? What, did they just find a mass grave containing 8,000 bodies? Enquiring minds want to know.


41 posted on 04/05/2022 5:12:03 PM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: ought-six

Zelensky may not have known that what he was asking people to do could get them shot peremptoraily. At least I sure hope he didn;t know.

Illegal Combatant aka Unlawful Combatant:

“A person who engages in combat without meeting the requirements for a lawful belligerent according to the laws of war as specified in the Third Geneva Convention.”

Working off of menory here, so could be wrong, but one easy way to avoid being unlawful combatants is to wear uniforms.


42 posted on 04/05/2022 5:12:35 PM PDT by BenLurkin ((The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire. Or both.))
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To: Pelham

My dad was a WWII veteran in the 7th Army.
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Same stories from my father, 86th Infantry Div WW2. They were just “ stories”, then, until I participated in the Colombian drug wars and saw for myself. Both Uribe and the FARC committed atrocities, and both lied about them, and both accused each other.
Today’s “ kids” whom have never been in a war are getting sucked in by their “ emotions “, propaganda and don’t have the sense to realize western MSM has an agenda.
What bothers me is during Trump’s time, it was fact the news was FAKE, but now suddenly the brain dead want to believe the fake news…
Don’t get sucked in.


43 posted on 04/05/2022 5:13:19 PM PDT by delta7
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To: tlozo

“Both sides have committed atrocities,

BS. “

Only war criminals embed fighters and heavy weapons amongst civilians. It’s what Palestinians do.

Ukraine did that in every city.

They documented it in thousands of photos you can still see on the internet with a simple google search.

But stupid, corrupt asses such as yourself think it was righteous.

Ukraine committed 10X the war crimes of Russia.


44 posted on 04/05/2022 5:13:55 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: GreyFriar

The largest mass graves were in Hue.


45 posted on 04/05/2022 5:14:11 PM PDT by Monterrosa-24 (To the barricades !!!)
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To: DesertRhino

“When Russia called for a UN investigation of Bucha, the British government vetoed it.”

So, the logical question would be: WHY did they veto it? I have not seen any explanation, when surely one must have been raised.


46 posted on 04/05/2022 5:14:24 PM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: Mariner

Incredible bullshit.


47 posted on 04/05/2022 5:14:42 PM PDT by Houserino
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To: delta7

Except the Western leaders believe everything out of Ukraine and call Putin a war criminal.


48 posted on 04/05/2022 5:16:27 PM PDT by Rusty0604 (" When you can't make them see the light, make them feel the heat." -Ronald Reagan)
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To: Monterrosa-24

You are one person in a million who even cares how many die in Ukraine, much less who killed them.


49 posted on 04/05/2022 5:18:16 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: datura

You can attempt to obfuscate your Soviet leanings all you want. You lived and worked in Moscow for years - I get it. But don’t waste your time pretending to be unbiased. You’re not.
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Don’t forget my Ukrainian time. I found them to be much, much more corrupted than Ivan.
I have seen both sides, lived it, worked it, had my “feet in the trenches”. You and a great number of Americans have not, and are sucking up the western narrative.
As I have stated - both Zelensky and Vlad are corrupted and evil, support neither. There are no white hats in this regional conflict. Don’t get sucked in.


50 posted on 04/05/2022 5:19:19 PM PDT by delta7
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To: ought-six
“When Russia called for a UN investigation of Bucha, the British government vetoed it.” So, the logical question would be: WHY did they veto it? I have not seen any explanation, when surely one must have been raised.

Because it takes years for the UN to complete its investigation, like the Malaysian airline downing and then Russia refused to accept the results-like the Malaysian airline downing.

51 posted on 04/05/2022 5:22:10 PM PDT by tlozo (Trump-the Russian invasion of Ukraine is " truly a crime against humanity")
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To: ought-six; CrazyCatChick

“If Putin survives his disaster, he might want to get rid of the yes men and bring in some realists.”

But that is not the way of dictators.”

Putin is a realist, surrounded by realists. It’s the only counsel he receives. This is a good thing.

Realpolitik.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Realpolitik


52 posted on 04/05/2022 5:22:14 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: ought-six

The Authoritarian’s Dilemma.


53 posted on 04/05/2022 5:23:47 PM PDT by CrazyCatChick (DEATH POKE!)
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To: Houserino

“Incredible bullshit.”

Truth.

You’re just having an emotional reaction over the fact Russia is the invading force.

War crimes make no allowance for the aggressive force.

Ukraine committed 10X, at least, the war crimes that Russia has. It’s not even close.


54 posted on 04/05/2022 5:25:12 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: BenLurkin

In that part of the world they are known as partisans rather than “illegal combatants”. It wouldn’t be a surprise if every street in a town over 100,000 in Russia had a Krasny Partisan street.


55 posted on 04/05/2022 5:25:30 PM PDT by Hamiltonian
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To: Reaganez

Do you have a link to that positive proof?


56 posted on 04/05/2022 5:25:41 PM PDT by Rusty0604 (" When you can't make them see the light, make them feel the heat." -Ronald Reagan)
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To: delta7

No, but he should forever shut his mouth for calling the Russian crimes worse than the Holocaust.


57 posted on 04/05/2022 5:27:36 PM PDT by cowboyusa (America Cowboy up! )
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To: BenLurkin

“Illegal Combatant aka Unlawful Combatant: “A person who engages in combat without meeting the requirements for a lawful belligerent according to the laws of war as specified in the Third Geneva Convention.””

But nowhere in the Conventions are those terms (”Illegal Combatant or Unlawful Combatant”) defined. Indeed, the conventions pretty much state that non-military combatants are subject to the laws of their respective nations, and are not subject to international law as set forth in the Conventions.


58 posted on 04/05/2022 5:28:15 PM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: tlozo

Do you have absolute proof that was work of the Russians? I didn’t think so.


59 posted on 04/05/2022 5:28:33 PM PDT by Rusty0604 (" When you can't make them see the light, make them feel the heat." -Ronald Reagan)
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To: Mariner
Putin is a realist, surrounded by realists. It’s the only counsel he receives.

Lol. Sure thats why Putin's director of the Foreign Intelligence Service of Russia looks terrified and tongue tied with Putin.

Russian leader Vladimir Putin gave his stammering spy chief a tongue-lashing at a security council meeting Tuesday, schooling him in a discussion about Moscow recognizing the independence of two separatist-controlled regions of Ukraine.

https://nypost.com/2022/02/22/putin-lashes-out-at-russia-intelligence-chief-in-viral-video/

60 posted on 04/05/2022 5:29:10 PM PDT by tlozo (Trump-the Russian invasion of Ukraine is " truly a crime against humanity")
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