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Is the Bucha Massacre A Ukrainian False Flag?
Helleninscope ^ | 5 April 22 | Larry Johnson

Posted on 04/05/2022 4:27:48 PM PDT by delta7

Bucha is the latest shiny object that the Western cats are chasing mindlessly without taking time to think critically about what Russia is actually doing on the ground. Russia’s invasion on February 24 was not a classic military attack. What do I mean? If Russia was intent on conquering and subjugating Ukraine without regard to the fate of Ukrainian civilians it would have launched massive missile and airstrikes on all major cities, bridges, airfields, railroads and communication systems. It did not do that. Not my opinion.

The first phase of Russia’s special military operation consisted of the following:

Moved troops and armored columns into Ukraine from three directions–North, East and South. Deployed only 200,000 troops while maintaining key reserves inside Russia along the Ukrainian border against a Ukrainian Army estimated to number 600,000. Avoided attacking communication systems leaving cell phone and internet largely intact. Took control of the largest nuclear power plant in Europe–Zaporizhzhya Nuclear Power Plant–but kept the electricity flowing. Supported offensives by the Luhansk and Donetsk People’s Republics against Ukrainian forces in the East. Gradually surrounded Kiev from the North but did not fight any key battles to occupy outlying cities. Destroyed Ukrainian ground radar, key airfields and military bases in Western Ukraine with precision missiles. Sealed the southern coast of Ukraine with the Russian Navy. Launched an assault on Mariupol, a key Ukrainian port in the South, and systematically annihilated the neo-Nazi AZOV battalion (Russia now controls all of Mariupol except for the steel plant and continues to methodically eliminate the remaining defenders). The immediate effect of this operation divided and froze the Ukrainian Army in four geographical regions-North, South, East and West. During the first two weeks the Ukrainians and NATO did not know where Russia’s major blow would fall. Russia’s initial success in eliminating Ukraine’s Air Force as a combat effective unit and the destruction of key military bases and fuel depots made it impossible for Ukraine to dispatch reinforcements to Donbas and Mariupol.

During the past week Russia has effected a tactical redeployment of forces that originally surrounded Kiev. It is reported that those units moved west and are likely to be used as block force that will be part of a broader effort to defeat the bulk of the Ukraine Army now virtually surrounded in the eastern part of the Donbas.

With its limited ability to move troops or resupply frontline forces, Ukraine is relying on propaganda and information warfare to try to weaken Russia and entice NATO to join the fray. Here is a good summary of these efforts courtesy of Nighvision:

For instance, when the Russian POW torture video came out, it was Ukraine that cried “fake” until days later all western ‘authorities’ were forced to admit it was real. When the ‘maternity hospital’ false flag in Mariupol occurred, Kyiv supporters blamed Russia and once again Russia was the one proven right and vindicated when the pregnant girl at the center of it herself released an interview completely refuting Ukrainian lies, and stating that not only did Ukrainian soldiers turn the hospital into a barracks but stole the precious food from pregnant women and then shelled the hospital themselves. When Ukraine claimed Russia bombed an ‘innocent’ civilian mall, yet the very next moment the Russian MOD released detailed videos showing precisely how Ukrop forces positioned mobile artillery in the parking garage of the said ‘mall’. When Ukrops claimed Russia tried to blow up the Zaporizhzhia plant, yet security footage showed that as a Russian security force arrived, it was fired upon by an RPG from Ukrop positions in one of the administrative buildings of the plant. When the famed American journalist was killed in Irpin right outside Kiev a month ago, and all Ukrainian supporters shouted Russia, but the entire incident was quickly swept under the rug when the journalist’s own friend/companion in an interview stated they were fired upon by Ukrop troops at a Ukrop checkpoint miles away from the nearest Russian forces.


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To: Houserino

The same logic does not apply to the Baltics.

They have history outside Russia.


201 posted on 04/06/2022 7:43:07 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: delta7

“Wrong, the first were committed by Ukraine in 2015 when they started shelling the ethnic Russian eastern independent provinces.”

Comrade Chekist, you and your boss Pidor Putin do not get to have this both ways.

If Donbas and Crimea are parts of Russia occupied by Russian forces...as Russia frequently claims they are...then the Ukrainians are then shelling Russian invaders and Russian citizens who are illegally occupying Ukrainian territory.

So far as I am concerned the Ukrainians after 2014 were holding back the thieving Russian forces who first pretended to be “Little Green Men” and then who pretended to be “Donbas Separatists”.

You say that the Ukrainians killed 22,000 of these gangsters?

Good. I hope they kill more of them and I wish the Ukrainian forces good hunting as they oust the murderers, thieves, and rapists from all of the land of the Ukrainians...including Crimea.


202 posted on 04/06/2022 8:30:57 AM PDT by MercyFlush (I don't follow the science. I follow the money. )
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To: MercyFlush

“...So far as I am concerned the Ukrainians after 2014 were holding back the thieving Russian forces who first pretended to be “Little Green Men” and then who pretended to be “Donbas Separatists”...

“...Good. I hope they kill more of them and I wish the Ukrainian forces good hunting as they oust the murderers, thieves, and rapists from all of the land of the Ukrainians...including Crimea...”

Great post. I’m going to show it to my Russian-speaking Ukrainian wife whose hometown of Alchevsk was stolen by Putin’s clandestine invasion of the Donbas. She hates them.


203 posted on 04/06/2022 8:39:03 AM PDT by Monterrosa-24 (To the barricades !!!)
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To: delta7

I trust nothing western media says.....they are getting folks killed

Just rehashing newsfeeds trey are given

You have to search for a tal non aligned reporters in the field

Everything else is sources say or concocted

Or misrepresented

It’s difficult to tell

By the way this fog of war talk is not about propaganda

It was originally about commanders unable to find their armies positions due to visibility issues often ....morning fog or smoke from battle

The propaganda effort by the west is unprecented ....it’s a proxy war on Russia so it’s impossible to know

Most everything they have said so far is false or mostly false


204 posted on 04/06/2022 8:41:38 AM PDT by wardaddy (Free Republic land of the earnest headline readers )
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To: delta7
Bucha is the latest shiny object that the Western cats are chasing mindlessly without taking time to think critically about what Russia is actually doing on the ground. Russia’s invasion on February 24 was not a classic military attack. What do I mean? If Russia was intent on conquering and subjugating Ukraine without regard to the fate of Ukrainian civilians it would have launched massive missile and airstrikes on all major cities, bridges, airfields, railroads and communication systems. It did not do that. Not my opinion.

A point lost on cold warriors 2.0

205 posted on 04/06/2022 8:44:16 AM PDT by wardaddy (Faulkner never knew Free Republic but he coined its nickname...The Sound and The Fury)
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To: Monterrosa-24

Tell your wife “Slava Ukraini!” for me!

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206 posted on 04/06/2022 8:47:39 AM PDT by MercyFlush (I don't follow the science. I follow the money. )
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To: wardaddy

Actually, Russia did attack key airfields and it did bomb major cities. I told you before that my brother-in-law’s Kharkov flat was severely damaged on Day 2 even though it was not close to a military target. I guess you don’t trust the media or personal reports ... they would just be anecdotal. It is very odd that you dismiss all the evidence of the massive destruction in cities.

When attacking one does NOT destroy bridges that one needs for their offensive so why do you quote:

“...it would have launched massive missile and airstrikes on all major cities, bridges...”

You are reluctant to face some facts. Russia brutally invaded Ukraine. They were over-confident and under-prepared. The Ukrainian soldiers had the spirit of the bayonet, and the Russian soldiers had the spirit of looting. I would think a Southerner would cheer the one time zone country defending itself from the eleven time zone country but you only throw ice water on Ukrainian bravery.


207 posted on 04/06/2022 8:57:21 AM PDT by Monterrosa-24 (To the barricades !!!)
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To: Monterrosa-24

I know you told me

I too have people with Ukraine assets

There has not been an attack on Kiev en force

Attacking airfields and military installations etc is not Grozny

Kiev has lights water and the propaganda machine sitting there spinning

Civilian casualties are still low....a fraction ..I’m going on n numbers....your side of the argument .....a fraction of Donbas civilian deaths past eight years

The war is mostly in the east....where Putin will achieve his objectives...he doesn’t need Kiev for that

Ukes and their paras are fighting in the east

And sporadic hits on Russian assets elsewhere when they can

You need to review Grozny war pics for reference what Putin does when he’s all in on a city


208 posted on 04/06/2022 9:06:15 AM PDT by wardaddy (Faulkner never knew Free Republic but he coined its nickname...The Sound and The Fury)
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To: wardaddy

I know all about Grozny. They got rougher on the second try. Yet still there is no shortage of Moslem Chechens willing now to fight on Putin’s side. The Ukrainians have to kill them in addition to those from Russia’s far east and European Russians. I’m impressed at the job the Ukrainians are doing.


209 posted on 04/06/2022 9:11:28 AM PDT by Monterrosa-24 (To the barricades !!!)
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To: Monterrosa-24

Putin crushed them....they respect that then he rebuilt them....and pays their leader.....it’s a good playbook dealing with Muzz and yes they are like Houthis and Comanches .....fight like hell


210 posted on 04/06/2022 9:13:46 AM PDT by wardaddy (Faulkner never knew Free Republic but he coined its nickname...The Sound and The Fury)
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To: wardaddy

Most everything they have said so far is false or mostly false
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A reminder that most Bad Vlad war cheerleaders forget, the Covid / vax hoax. Nothing has changed, ANYTHING Senile Joe supports, instated, or pushes is evil, corrupt, the Ukie/ Russian war agenda is NO DIFFERENT.

Don’t get sucked in, Biden’s agenda is to destroy America as we have known it.


211 posted on 04/06/2022 5:55:57 PM PDT by delta7
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