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Just a month ago now.
"Sorry, man - you have the same last name as one of the protestors. We'll fix your bank account next week. Tell your friends what happens to dissenters."
Posted on 04/04/2022 10:17:02 AM PDT by Red Badger
Ukrainian police posted on Facebook that they had conducted a “clearing op” in Bucha the day before videos emerged showing dead bodies scattered around the settlement, as the war of words over the alleged “war crime” continues.
NATO powers and pro-Ukraine commentators have seized upon the alleged atrocity in a bid to escalate the war, with MSNBC hosts and guests even asserting that it justifies directly attacking Russia and putting American boots on the ground in Ukraine.
MSNBC host Ali Velshi demanded “direct military involvement,” something that would almost inevitably kick off World War III, in response to the alleged incident.
MSNBC this morning is a full-fledged editorial for direct US/NATO intervention. The outright pro-war advocacy has reached another gear pic.twitter.com/KYLcxYcUEv
— Michael Tracey (@mtracey) April 3, 2022
Former Army Major John Spencer also appeared on the same show to demand American “boots on the ground” in Ukraine.
MSNBC crossed a threshold today into outright lobbying for WWIII pic.twitter.com/XOCWHmwqtL
— Michael Tracey (@mtracey) April 3, 2022
Moscow has vehemently denied involvement, claiming Ukraine shelled the city after Russian troops had already withdrawn.
The only evidence offered so far pointing to Russian responsibility is the claims of Ukrainian authorities, with are being breathlessly amplified by the mainstream media without an ounce of skepticism.
Margaret Brennan of CBS admitted that Ukrainian President Zelensky’s team had “handed” her the videos and they were broadcast, as journalist Michael Tracey wrote, with “zero independent corroboration.”
Margaret Brennan of CBS admits that Zelensky's "team" handed her some photos/videos, and she's now going to broadcast them on TV with zero independent corroboration. Just openly purveying a foreign country's war propaganda. This is what's considered Real Journalism™ in the US pic.twitter.com/PCXZ11w2kR
— Michael Tracey (@mtracey) April 3, 2022
The notion that Ukrainian authorities, who have been caught staging innumerable incidents already in a bid to lobby for more NATO military involvement, would lie about this is seemingly not even a consideration.
A timeline provided from reporting by the New York Times suggests that pro-Ukrainian Azov neo-nazi militants entered Bucha after Russian troops left and after the Mayor of Bucha had announced the town’s liberation with no mention of any atrocities.
Mar 30: Ru troops leave Bucha Mar 31: Mayor of Bucha announces town 'liberated', makes no mention of atrocities.https://t.co/WLAfjJOfZt Apr 1/2: Azov Nazis enter Buchahttps://t.co/WkSTMUJy4O Apr 3: Ukr MinDef publishes video of 'Russian' atrocitieshttps://t.co/HDUUYI7zex pic.twitter.com/PQUgD9izpz
— Moon of Alabama (@MoonofA) April 3, 2022
One member of Azov was reportedly heard asking if he could shoot individuals who weren’t wearing blue armbands.
Lat night, Sergey "Boatsman" Korotkikh, infamous Neo-Nazi & member of Azov, posted a video titled "The BOATSMAN BOYS in Bucha". At the 6 second mark you can clearly hear the dialogue:
"There are guys without blue armbands, can I shoot them?" "Fuck yeah" pic.twitter.com/n8WY1D0xRe
— Russians With Attitude (@RWApodcast) April 3, 2022
Another report asserts that Ukrainian national police posted on Facebook how they had conducted a “clearing operation” in Bucha before the alleged atrocities occurred accompanied by a video of their men walking around the town.
“Today, on 2 April, in the liberated city of Bucha, Kiev region, special units of the Ukrainian National Police began clearing the area of saboteurs and accomplices of Russian troops,” the Facebook post said.
As ever, with propaganda on both sides, it is virtually impossible to know what happened in Bucha, but to claim it’s an open and shut case of “war crimes” as the western media proclaims without any independent evidence is clearly ludicrous.
Some people are slow to understand what’s actually going on and who is behind it and their reasoning/goals. Because they haven’t been paying attention, they don’t know the background history or at least the truth of it all.
Some of those people, once they learn the truth, are slow to admit they were wrong in their thinking/actions if they ever do. Not everyone’s as savvy as bubbleheads are. ;)
Anything to help “The Big Guy.”
I can’t wait for the idiots at FOX to jump into the pig pen with MSNBC.
The CIA rolled out the video for the networks. It’s a flag operation alright.
“MSNBC War Pigs?”
Ultimately, neocons belong there because they always revert to their origin.
Pinochet had a solution for warpigs like this dude...
A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is still putting on it’s shoes.
Frankly I don’t care who killed who, and how many in Ukraine.
20 or 20 million. Ukrainian or Russian.
I do not care.
March 30, mayor declares the Russians are gone. doesn’t mention any mass murder and bodies littering the streets at all. A couple of days later the Ukes move in. People dead are wearing white armbands indicating no hostility to Russians.
They start showing up everywhere all of a sudden.
This is a Ukrainian mass murder conducted for ethnic cleansing reasons.
Also noteworthy. The Ukes did not retake that city in a fight. The Russians packed up and moved and Ukes reoccupied.
Ukr military first entered the town two days ago and failed to mention any atrocities, let alone piles of bodies.
https://t.me/yurasumy/2927
Then the bodies suddenly appeared, after the “cleansing operation”, some of them perfectly alive.
That’s just the last of a dozen such false flags and fakes already debunked, the first being a bunch of “Russian saboteurs” running over cars in Kiev, who later turned to the the Ukrainian AA team attacked by their own Nazi militia.
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Just a month ago now.
"Sorry, man - you have the same last name as one of the protestors. We'll fix your bank account next week. Tell your friends what happens to dissenters."
I really am amazed at the level of Putin support among those here who should know better.
Ukrainians are rushing across our border as we speak. I hear there is a huge black market for Ukrainian passport passed out at the southern border.
That video of the corpse climbing out of the body bag wins the Internet for the month.
Those who believe the evidence provided by known liars are the idiots.
No kidding.
The Dems know if they can't pound the war drums enough to get the country to rally behind their corrupt, senile "President," they're finished.
There is one piece of evidence about that area which a lot of people are ignoring.
A 40 mile convoy sat tin that area and other cities and was never attacked, never messed with for 3 weeks. There are videos of the Russian troops talking to the locals and not having any problems.
There are a lot of Ukrainians who did want Russia to come in. And it would not surprise me if there are Ukrainian nationalists who want to punish people.
DO I support Putin. Not even the smallest bit, but most Ukrainians ain’t that nice either.
REEEEE! Russians are the good guys! There are no atrocities! REEEEEE
Sound familiar?
Actually this is accurate; following Russian withdrawal Ukes did their “clearing up”, arrested and shot some Russian sympathizers. The problem for the Kiev regime is that they did not realize that the video of “clearing up” was posted by them and showed no corpses in allegedly left by Russians.
This is not the end of the story; now Zelensky took the TV under full control — specifically, he took over the channels owned by Poroshenko. (Yes, in the middle of the war there is also fighting between these two-—possibly Zel would end up hanging Poroshenko as “Putin’s agent”).
My beef with what the Russians did : their withdrawal while made military sense effectively betrayed their supporters and left them open to the Nazis’ reprisals.
Lesson for them to be learned — if you come, stay, no matter what is the cost, this type of betrayal should not be an option.
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