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To: wardaddy; Zhang Fei; caww
Wardaddy - what stories are you making about Azov?

Those neo-Nazis are scum no doubt, but you want to COMPARE those two monsters? Putin has outdone whatver the 900 mens of Azov did do in 8 years

The organization now extols the belief that “Ukraine is a democratic country and people of all nationalities and religions live here side by side … we have Jews, Azerbaijanis, Armenians, Georgians and Russians all among our fighters. We are all fighting for Ukraine.” according to member Artem Hubenko. Anton Shekhovtsov, a Ukranian academic and expert in the European right, asserts that Azov has evolved so far from its origins as to make its far-right roots meaningless. [link here]

When considering thev Azov Battalion it is important to note that the history is complex and the Azov Militia, as well as Donbas separatists both committed war crimes. However, this does not take away from the atrocities and regrettable loss of life in Donbas

The way that Putin and the Kremlin use the terms ‘Nazism’ and ‘fascism’ is rooted in the Soviet era when, then and now, it means anybody who does not want to be either part of the Soviet Union or part of the Russian world,

One of the last independent Russian journalists Alexander Nevzorov who escaped Russia after criminal charges were pressed against him for calling military operation “war,” contacted Azov Battalion to find out if they were indeed neo-Nazis as the Kremlin has repeatedly claimed and used as the basis for their entire legend that Ukraine is run and controlled by Nazis.

He wrote

For eight years, soldiers of different faiths have been serving in this unit hand in hand: Orthodox, Catholics, Protestants, pagans, Jews and Muslims, where the majority speaks Russian.

We despise Nazism and Stalinism, because our country has suffered the most from these totalitarian regimes and false ideology.

Russia bombed Babi Yar, where victims of Nazism of the 20th century are buried.

Putinists bring down tons of shells on hospitals, schools, kindergartens, churches. Putin's soldiers shoot the elderly, kill children and pregnant women, as the Hitler’s soldiers once did.

Nazism is an insatiable need to kill people who dare to become free. This is belief in one's right as a supernation, and this is belief in the right to rule over other peoples, while raping and plundering other states.

Doesn't it remind you of anything?

and here are some Jewish members of the Azov battalion


41 posted on 04/04/2022 3:16:20 AM PDT by Cronos
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To: Cronos

I don’t believe the Russian separatists in Donbas have committed the same level of hardship on the populace that Azov etc have

And I actually know someone from there and my son corresponds with folks there on 4chan albeit the sep side

Azov has been brutal there since euromaiden

This is from Newsweek ....now on your side but this is from 2014

https://www.newsweek.com/evidence-war-crimes-committed-ukrainian-nationalist-volunteers-grows-269604

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2014/09/ukraine-must-stop-ongoing-abuses-and-war-crimes-pro-ukrainian-volunteer-forces/


74 posted on 04/04/2022 8:56:04 AM PDT by wardaddy (Free Republic land of the earnest headline readers )
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