Posted on 04/03/2022 9:40:39 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican
BUCHA, Ukraine — The Russian forces that were intent on overwhelming Kyiv at the war’s start with tanks and artillery retreated under fire across a broad front on Saturday, leaving behind them dead soldiers and burned vehicles, according to witnesses, Ukrainian officials, satellite images and military analysts.
The withdrawal suggested the possibility of a major turn in the six-week war — the collapse, at least for now, of Russia’s initial attempt to seize Kyiv, the Ukrainian capital, and the end of its hopes for the quick subjugation of the nation.
Moscow has described the withdrawal as a tactical move to regroup and reposition its forces for a major push in the Donbas region of eastern Ukraine. While there are early indications that the military is following through on that plan, analysts say it cannot obscure the magnitude of the defeat.
“The initial Russian operation was a failure and one of its central goals — the capture of Kyiv — proved unobtainable for Russian forces,” Michael Kofman, the director of Russian studies at C.N.A., a research institute in Arlington, Va., said in a telephone interview Saturday.
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And we’re dealing with traitors. Sell-out...
Again I ask, are you still having trouble finding the countless smoking and smoldering Russian convoys?
How does it feel to know that your boys are getting decimated all over Ukraine?
Loser.. Just like you Russian boys that are rotting all over Ukraine.
Yea but it’s also not their job to mislead. Omitting context does just that.
Please note the Russians won the Winter War, about a fifth of Finland was transferred to the Soviet Union. The Japanese made peace with Russia in 1905 as they were approaching bankruptcy and the international banking community would not continue to advance credit. Russia paid Japan back in 1945 in a crushing way.
The adage is Russia always wins the final battle no matter how long it takes.
A Russian defeat in the Ukraine will mean a Cold War 2 and a much more powerful Russian military bent on revanch.
The Poles are wise to seek NATO nukes to be stationed on their territory as a hoped for insurance against what a future Russia will be.
China will happily encourage real emnity between Russia and the NATO-US would be world order with credit, armaments and encouragement to confront the Yankees
“Yea but it’s also not their job to mislead.”
Actually, it is. Project Mockingbird is fact, not conspiracy theory. And before that, William Hearst furnished the war.
“That means Russia loses the naval base at Sevastopol.”
Putin may go scorched earth in Crimea, and everywhere else, before he lets that happen. At this point, who knows.
“ A Russian defeat in the Ukraine will mean a Cold War 2 and a much more powerful Russian military bent on revanch.”
I doubt Russia will be able to afford that. And it’s likely their “friend” China has something up their sleeves once Russia’s military is diminished after this war. They lust after Russia;s resources.
Or Russia achieved it’s goals in the east and has moved to fortify it.
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Great time lapsed , current maps…from Russian MOD, but agrees with western MSM reported moves.
the two weeks they have been battering Kiev
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No indication of that, Kiev area hasn’t seen any battering for more than three weeks, Mariupol, southfront and eastern provinces, Vlad even by US DOD admitted Vlad wasn’t retreating, but repositioning for the East.
Time will tell, I expect Vlad is very close to achieving his stated goals.
He has already checkmated the west’s sanctions.
I assume Putin's gone. So whenever that happens, I think 3 scenarios may happen. #1 - Russia reopens to the West. #2 - Russia gets behind a Putin successor so they will continue to isolate themselves but it does not mean their military will reinvent themselves. #3 - Russia collapses so provinces like Chechnya secedes.
A humiliated Putin is potentially quite dangerous. Rather than concede defeat, he may go nuclear on the Ukrainians.
They had hoped to take Kiev.
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Read Vlad’s original war speech, he never stated Kiev, but the eastern provinces getting their independence, and ridding the Neo Nazi strongholds ( which he has nearly accomplished- Mariupol is a pile rubble).
By all standards of war, Vlad appears to be winning. Casualties mean nothing to him, he will bury the dead and move on…Ukraine will do the same but then go begging for billions of $ to rebuild, and still never be admitted to the EU or NATO.
Agree!
No matter the outcome in Ukraine Russia looses in the short term. The question is will it also be extended to the long term. Two of your three scenarios have Russia losing in the long term. Those two scenarios would not make a safer world. Its Russia’s future to choose not our to choose for them.
3 - Russia collapses so provinces like Chechnya secedes.
——- Silly boy, I was in Moscow during the Chechnyan war, he flattened Grozny and the Islamists. Today, twenty years later he has the Chechnyan’s fighting for him! That says much about his leadership ( right or wrong).
Vlad, Like Trump, is a powerful leader, he does what he says. ….I am sure Senile Joe will continue to support Zelensky down to the last Ukrainian soldier…..
Putin have Chechyans a deal. They have Chechnya billions of dollars. So they decided to join Russia. Putin gave Chechnya a little space, they can remain Muslim but they have to swear their allegiance to Russia. So that's the deal. It's a good one. Allah Akbar. Putin Akbar.
Putin have Chechyans a deal.
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When I was in Moscow during the conflict, it was widely reported his deal was: keep sending suicide bombers to Beslan and the Belshoi, and I will send a few nukes to your country. It worked, in less than a year their radical Islamists were no more, replaced internally by a “ kinder, gentler bunch of Islamists”.
If the Kerch Strait Bridge including the rail line is disrupted, Ukraine may take the Crimea.
That means Russia loses the naval base at Sevastopol.
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Wishful thinking, ain’t gonna happen. Since Vlad reabsorbed the Crimea, their economy has been on a roll, GDP north of 50 percent, 380,000 Russians moved there, Crimea listed as the fastest growing economy in all of Europe, you can argue why, but the fact is the Crimea exploded with jobs, jobs jobs. The Crimea population loves him.
https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2019/06/03/crimean-economy-named-fastest-growing-in-russia-a65851
An article dated on how Crimea grew when the Russians regained it. Numerous articles written on the subject, m.any different sources, this just one.
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