[Cronos]

tlozo So who is driving the Russian tanks, flying the planes and firing the artillery? -- Russian soldiers no doubt. But they are cannon fodder, treated like beasts and pushed to acting like beasts

This is exactly what happened in WWI, WWII, the Napoleonic wars, Crimean war of the 1850s etc

all I'm saying is that Putin WILL portray this as "defense of the motherland" if we call it anything but "Putin's war"

I want this war to end and the way to do that is not to demonize the Russian people as a whole -- even if some soldiers DO act demonic

[rrrod]

Make no mistake...this is all on Putin.