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Transcript: Vladimir Putin’s Televised Address on Ukraine
The Spectator ^ | 24.February.2022 | Vladimir Putin

Posted on 03/30/2022 6:41:32 AM PDT by farming pharmer

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To: Williams

everyone knows this. are you shocked a political speech shades things?

next do brandon, if you can find a coherent speech from him.


21 posted on 03/30/2022 7:31:11 AM PDT by WoofDog123
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To: WoofDog123

Brandon’s view is that white people are racist.

Putin’s view is that Russian people are proud of their country and heritage.

Xi’s view is that Chinese people are proud of their country and heritage.

It is kinda obvious who supports their own people—and who does not.


22 posted on 03/30/2022 7:33:55 AM PDT by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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To: WoofDog123
Wars are a good way to deflect from internal economic issues, btw.

Bingo. Yesterday I was wondering what's going on in the background while the Ukraine 'shiny object' has everyone's attention.
23 posted on 03/30/2022 7:38:39 AM PDT by farming pharmer (fork you :(){ :|:& };:)
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To: farming pharmer

my concern on this topic is that it is quite possible that this gang running the show here may not be competent enough to pull this off without starting something they think they are too smart to fall into.

and some of them may not care about damage to the US if it keeps them in power.

lots of historical examples of wars being started in great part for domestic reasons.


24 posted on 03/30/2022 7:42:13 AM PDT by WoofDog123
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To: cgbg

someone recently described the US as the most propagandized major society in the world.

I cannot evaluate the alternatives, but I am not inclined to instantly dismiss the allegation either.

Look how quickly the US population has been re-focused to essentially support going to war over a former SSR. Four months ago support for this would have been single-digits?

I do believe that years of having to believe contradictory information given in official messaging has made the population more pliable, or easier to quickly reprogram. what is interesting is how social conservatives who normally believe essentially nothing from our media, much less the usual suspect globalist organizations and names, have fallen into lockstep on this.

our situation in the US reminds me of a combination of Orwell’s sheep in animal farm (bleeting out any dissenting questions) and the two minutes hate of 1984.

so no, I am not sure that we are not in fact the most propagandized society in the world, as far as major countries.


25 posted on 03/30/2022 7:46:13 AM PDT by WoofDog123
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To: 9YearLurker
One gets the idea he’s speaking to an intelligent and educated populace.

Always flatter your audience. They'll be more receptive. Thump your chest and use inspirational phrases. Rock on!!!

26 posted on 03/30/2022 7:47:36 AM PDT by gloryblaze
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To: farming pharmer

There’s a lot there to unpack, but I will say it’s refreshing to read someone who can string coherent sentences together rather the babble incoherently like Creepy Corrupt Joe does.


27 posted on 03/30/2022 7:47:38 AM PDT by AFreeBird
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To: rrrod

“Truth and facts mean nothing to the Putinistas Cult.”

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Sigh. I know.

At least we have the main stream media to make sure we know the real truth.


28 posted on 03/30/2022 7:49:13 AM PDT by Sir Bangaz Cracka (Poor 'lil Travon bees slamming dat white cracka'a head into dat sidewalk causin he be scared)
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To: 9YearLurker

Sad, but true. Americans are too busy discussing Will Smith and Cris Rock to listen to something so detailed.


29 posted on 03/30/2022 7:49:30 AM PDT by TBall
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To: farming pharmer
...politicians, political scientists and journalists write and say that a veritable “empire of lies” has been created inside the United States in recent years. It is hard to disagree with this – it is really so. But one should not be modest about it: the United States is still a great country and a system-forming power. All its satellites not only humbly and obediently say yes to and parrot it at the slightest pretext but also imitate its behaviour and enthusiastically accept the rules it is offering them. Therefore, one can say with good reason and confidence that the whole so-called Western bloc formed by the United States in its own image and likeness is, in its entirety, the very same “empire of lies”...

The “empire of lies”... proceeds in its policy primarily from rough, direct force. This is when our saying on being “all brawn and no brains” applies.

It is indeed "hard to disagree with this" part - especially the comment about “all brawn and no brains”, with Dementia Joe as Commander in Chief. (Also makes you wonder about the sanity of people screaming for 'WAR NOW!', when we've got puddin'head in command! ;>)

30 posted on 03/30/2022 7:57:30 AM PDT by Who is John Galt? ("...mit Pulver und Blei, Die Gedanken sind frei!")
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To: WoofDog123

Good post.

The true bottom of the barrel is England—the government owns the BBC, and they are among the most fanatical propagandists on the planet.


31 posted on 03/30/2022 7:57:54 AM PDT by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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To: farming pharmer

It is a very, very good speech. And he makes good sense.

NATO has taken on a life of its own. It’s a giant war machine, itching to launch Lockheed’s newest weapons at the bad guy of the week. Funded and supplied largely by the US.

US Senators and Congressmen get to go on paid junkets, wearing flak vests and eating caviar, and play Eleventy Star Generals, anf take campaign photo op pictures and collect another vig from Raytheon.

Like any giant bureaucracy, it wants to expand itself, find new justifications for its existence when the old reasons die out. Self-perpetuating.

NATO did break promises, bomb countries indiscriminately, mess up Belgrade, Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan, Libya...on and on. Trillions in weapons fired, and replaced, on the US’s dime.

NATO should be disbanded, or at least the US needs to withdraw.

Period.


32 posted on 03/30/2022 8:17:09 AM PDT by Basket_of_Deplorables (Putin is behaving rationally. The war is on Biden and Obama. )
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It is a very, very good speech. And he makes good sense.

NATO has taken on a life of its own. It’s a giant war machine, itching to launch Lockheed’s newest weapons at the bad guy of the week. Funded and supplied largely by the US.

US Senators and Congressmen get to go on paid junkets, wearing flak vests and eating caviar, and play Eleventy Star Generals, anf take campaign photo op pictures and collect another vig from Raytheon.

Like any giant bureaucracy, it wants to expand itself, find new justifications for its existence when the old reasons die out. Self-perpetuating.

NATO did break promises, bomb countries indiscriminately, mess up Belgrade, Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan, Libya...on and on. Trillions in weapons fired, and replaced, on the US’s dime.

NATO should be disbanded, or at least the US needs to withdraw.

Period.


I cannot disagree with you on any point you make.

What has changed (in America IMHO) is the is the amount of propaganda disseminated by the state controlled media and censored by the state controlled tech industry.

And no, my children are not cannon fodder for the next NATO war.
33 posted on 03/30/2022 8:36:26 AM PDT by farming pharmer (fork you :(){ :|:& };:)
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To: Basket_of_Deplorables
...or at least the US needs to withdraw.
Period.

Kind of a 'Brexit' for the US, with a lot of potential benefits, and reasonably limited risks...

;>)

34 posted on 03/30/2022 8:39:10 AM PDT by Who is John Galt? ("...mit Pulver und Blei, Die Gedanken sind frei!")
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To: farming pharmer

we are in a very dangerous time.

The US is a society undergoing a social revolution. We have a government upon which the recently-wrested crown rests uneasily. They seem to have matters triangulated nicely, but they don’t feel fully secure yet. Additionally, many of them appear to be ideologues.

At this point the historical precedents suggest we could be a very short number of years from a situation most here would deem impossible.

I think at this point anyone able to consider moving out of the US is getting multiple early warning signals to do so. as my profile shows, I am tied to panama but I am not sure how the little one-hex central american countries will do, they are all very tied to the US economically.

deeper in south america would be an area to investigate (brazil, chile. not sure on Arg. at this point, haven’t been in 20 years). No matter what the west does to itself or the northern hemisphere, Brazil in particular should be able to get by one way or another. Now if they go the mandatory vax route, that is yet another wrinkle (or have they alread?)


35 posted on 03/30/2022 8:43:17 AM PDT by WoofDog123
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To: farming pharmer
It is important to know what the enemy believes, whether you agree with it or not.
I'm sure historians can refute details, and even allowing for events seen differently from a Russian perspective, it's a well written speech, coherent and better than anything I've seen from the WH for a long time.
There are many things to ponder. Just don't swallow it whole.
I wish Putin didn't have to start a war to be heard.

OTOH, many of the depraved elements of the West were promoted by Kremlin led Commies for decades. I'm sure Putin knows this, that's why he doesn't want it in his own country.

36 posted on 03/30/2022 8:47:58 AM PDT by BitWielder1 (I'd rather have Unequal Wealth than Equal Poverty.)
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To: farming pharmer
We, under the current regime, the real Empire of Lies.

The Russians have more of a reason to be Ukraine than we ever did in Iraq.

Yes, we fomented a revolution in 2014 in Ukraine that divide the nation and resulted in neo-Nazis persecuting and continuing an eight-year war in Donbass against those of Russian ethnicity.

The same a-holes built a damn and cut the water of the people in Crimea, that willing didn't want a part of a government that has been installed illegally.

For years, experts and even idiots like Joe Biden warned Russia wouldn't continue to tolerate an eastward expansion of NATO, let alone in the backyard in a nation we heavily-armed. Yet, the idiot regime in the White House continued to tease the possibility of Ukraine joining.

It's our corrupt, aggressively anti-Russian foreign policy under Biden and Obama, Blinken and Nuland that caused this with neocon dim wits cheering it on.

37 posted on 03/30/2022 8:51:55 AM PDT by Kazan
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To: farming pharmer

I sometimes wonder what the US response would be if Russia befriended Mexico, fomented a revolution there, installed a puppet government, set up bio research labs, brought their Navel vessels into the Gulf of California and so on.

As long as the Mexican citizens were ok with it, I guess Washington would have to be too.


38 posted on 03/30/2022 8:58:21 AM PDT by CodeJockey (Politicians are to America as oligarchs are to Russia. )
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To: farming pharmer

This array includes promises not to expand NATO eastwards even by an inch.

Sounds like his excuse to go after them he’s as crazy and power hungry as Hitler was.
Take their money away from the is taking their power from them but Biden is making billions for Putin by buying oil from Russia Biden is as crazy as he is.


39 posted on 03/30/2022 9:00:25 AM PDT by Vaduz ( )
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To: farming pharmer

Bookmark


40 posted on 03/30/2022 9:02:07 AM PDT by DocRock
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