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To: Basket_of_Deplorables
It is a very, very good speech. And he makes good sense.

NATO has taken on a life of its own. It’s a giant war machine, itching to launch Lockheed’s newest weapons at the bad guy of the week. Funded and supplied largely by the US.

US Senators and Congressmen get to go on paid junkets, wearing flak vests and eating caviar, and play Eleventy Star Generals, anf take campaign photo op pictures and collect another vig from Raytheon.

Like any giant bureaucracy, it wants to expand itself, find new justifications for its existence when the old reasons die out. Self-perpetuating.

NATO did break promises, bomb countries indiscriminately, mess up Belgrade, Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan, Libya...on and on. Trillions in weapons fired, and replaced, on the US’s dime.

NATO should be disbanded, or at least the US needs to withdraw.

Period.


I cannot disagree with you on any point you make.

What has changed (in America IMHO) is the is the amount of propaganda disseminated by the state controlled media and censored by the state controlled tech industry.

And no, my children are not cannon fodder for the next NATO war.
33 posted on 03/30/2022 8:36:26 AM PDT by farming pharmer (fork you :(){ :|:& };:)
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To: farming pharmer

we are in a very dangerous time.

The US is a society undergoing a social revolution. We have a government upon which the recently-wrested crown rests uneasily. They seem to have matters triangulated nicely, but they don’t feel fully secure yet. Additionally, many of them appear to be ideologues.

At this point the historical precedents suggest we could be a very short number of years from a situation most here would deem impossible.

I think at this point anyone able to consider moving out of the US is getting multiple early warning signals to do so. as my profile shows, I am tied to panama but I am not sure how the little one-hex central american countries will do, they are all very tied to the US economically.

deeper in south america would be an area to investigate (brazil, chile. not sure on Arg. at this point, haven’t been in 20 years). No matter what the west does to itself or the northern hemisphere, Brazil in particular should be able to get by one way or another. Now if they go the mandatory vax route, that is yet another wrinkle (or have they alread?)


35 posted on 03/30/2022 8:43:17 AM PDT by WoofDog123
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To: farming pharmer

“What has changed (in America IMHO) is the is the amount of propaganda disseminated by the state controlled media and censored by the state controlled tech industry.

And no, my children are not cannon fodder for the next NATO war.”

Agreed 100%. America’s worst enemies are internal. And at the top of fedgov and media.

At least people are catching on.


45 posted on 03/30/2022 10:44:34 AM PDT by Basket_of_Deplorables (Putin is behaving rationally. The war is on Biden and Obama. )
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