Kareem Abdul-Jabbar on Will Smith

via Buzz Harris facebook ^ | 3-29-22 | Kareem Abdul-Jabbar

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KAJ is wrong.

Nobody supports systemic racism. There is no such a thing. It is an imaginary created racist scapegoat to explain undesirable outcomes.

Will’s wife did show her power. Will initially laughed. She gave him a look. That is how she dealt with the problem. Why anyone would watch anything with her in it is beyond me. Will should have walked away from her a long time ago.

[stevio]

It’s an intelligently written article. Better than 99% of what the so-called media does.

[PapaBear3625]

was it all a publicity stunt to benefit Pfizer?

New Conspiracy Theory Emerges After It’s Discovered Pfizer Sponsored Oscars And Has New Alopecia Drug in Trials

https://waynedupree.com/2022/03/pfizer-oscars-alopecia-drug/

[windsorknot]

was it all a publicity stunt to benefit Pfizer?

[depressed in 06]

There was a time when a man stood up, for his wife, he was applauded. Maybe, it would have been better, that, the wife went down and slapped Chris Rock.

[Candor7]

Thats exacty right. Now a days it leads to an arm wrestling contest.....or a consent of both parties to a boxing match.

But the social dynamic is still there. Social registers have arrays of behavious which are acceptable,the higher risk social environments have very well defined modes of behavour whichi are formal.....The Oscar Awards are a formal event, likely Hollywood's highest formal event.As a result people in America who attend have been screeding the event for years via racey dress, off hand flippant comments etc. NOw this comment by Rosk was a bridge too far, and he got slapped, he deserved it in this setting.

And there are manners.....even in Hollywood.

You wonder maybe, why I am educated in manners. I was taught the path of manners by my Kuydo teacher for 40 years.He was one of the few last , living Samurai. And for a samurai, a breach of manners could easily mean death.Kindness was important at all times back in the day, and so it is today.You step outside of kindness in the worong situation, then you have to be ready to handle what comes... Chris Rock was ignorant of that whole situation of formality, high risk socila event and the necesity for manners. Chris went too far. Thats HIS responsibility.

I learned manners well from a master.He taught me Resiha or "manner shooting" and made sure I understood all he could teach me behind that way.

You can read about him here. I cannot fail to mention Shibata Sensei when I think of the way of manners that he taught me for 40 years.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kanjuro_Shibata_XX

[alexander_busek]

And it wasn’t especially violent.

It was more violent than the 10,000 other interactions - incl. below-the-belt jokes, etc. - that have taken place on that stage in the past 90 years.

Regards,

[Vinnie]

...and perpetuated streotypes about the Black community. That's a lot to unpack.

No worries, No gun involved

[Candor7]

Chris didn’t insult her appearance.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Saying a woman who has a shaved head for medical reasons,has a GI Jane haoir cut , in a setting as foraml as it was, everyone wearing tuxes and full length formal gows , made up to the hilt, Chris needs to learn to say” Everyone is beautiful, and keep his kokes general , and unpersonal”

Chris Rock made it personal and it was a comment which was indeed derogatory IN THAT SETTING, whichi removed Mrs Smiths dignity. Will was therefore justified in what he did IMHO.He taught Chris Rock a lesson, just like you would a mouth kid back in the day.....I have no problem with that.A little discipline goes a long way. I do not see that conduct as diorderly or illegal.

[Scarlett156]

“Overgrown kids imagining stuff.”

That’s funny, but not entirely accurate. The average play-actor has no imagination. If s/he did, he would very quickly realize how stupid he looks when he’s “working” and go into some other more honorable line of work. (If you are an actor, don’t take it personally. I know some people in entertainment are okay if you don’t have to spend large amounts of time with them, it’s just that I never met one who was. Okay, that is.)

Actors are like shells of people waiting to be filled up with the characters they are to play. When you see them, they are playing a role - because seldom to you really see them unless it’s in front of a camera. Whatever discussion they provoke is all in the context of entertainment and getting bored fools to spend money on them - and of course most actors are famous for saying extremely stupid, ill-considered stuff that displays their ignorance to all. And still they are taken seriously. They influence large numbers of people with their stupid actions and words.

On the street if you insult someone’s wife, you’re risking getting shot. On the Oscars stage, it’s a cutesy little skit and EVERYONE’S SUPPOSED TO TALK ABOUT IT. Oh, so controversial! Blah-de-blah. Now they’re telling me to “get jabbed.”

F*** all those rich overprivileged freaks. I’ll talk about stuff that matters to me, thanks all the same. And if they all start telling me to do something like get a shot, you can bet that’s the absolute last thing I’m going to do.

Don’t get me started about rock critters dying off because I already got called a horrible person for saying “who cares?” (And if you work in entertainment: I AM a horrible person. You definitely do not want to get within a hundred yards of me.)

I utterly reject this polarizing hype. I refuse to care about celebrities except to say that I won’t be in the same ZIP code with one if there’s any way I can help it. (Only a couple of months ago I left a voice mail for an entertainment pud who was causing me a problem - I was really nice and non-threatening, but I did say if I saw anyone who even looked like him or his partner, or any of their crew, I would call the sheriff’s dept immediately. I said: “I wish you well and because I do, and I don’t want for you or anyone you know to be harmed. Therefore just know that if I see you, I’m calling the cops. Have a nice day!” Yes, I did that. Not going to say who it was, because all I want is for them to lay off.)

I hope the “entertainment industry” goes belly-up and all those perverts have to go work as telemarketers.

[alexander_busek]

I have been on a bus and saw a man diss a fellows girfriends appearance. The insulting party woke up hours later with a broken jaw.

Had the insulting party been actually paid to sit there and insult the fellow's girlfriend's appearance? Had the fellow and his girlfriend come to sit on that bus for the expressed purpose of listening to - mostly derisive - jokes, also about themselves?

False Equivalency Fallacy!

Regards,

[yldstrk]

No one likes violent assholes.

[yldstrk]

You are right about manners, wrong about your conclusion.

[alexander_busek]

It was Chris Rock , by failing to observe the niceties of the event and acted as if he was at a bar room roast of Will Smith and his wife. In other words Chris Rock was invoking laughter in the audience at the expense of Will Smith’s wife at a formal event.

1. Will Smith laughed at the joke himself - until he caught his wife rolling her eyes dismissively. By laughing at the joke himself, he openly acknowledged that the joke was funny, and did not breech the established boundaries of comedy at the AA presentation.

2. Even if Will Smith had not "joined in on the laughter" (at first): Chris Rock's joke would have been remembered by NOONE a mere day later. Instead, now it will be remembered forever ("Barbara Streisand Effect.")

Regards,

[glimmerman70]

I still wonder if it’s fake. I think will is is hating life because she cats around town with different guys and he keeps his affairs quiet. This is what can happen in a open marriage. Why bother to get married at all. When the joke was told will laughed about it and his wife was mad. The camera panned away when he looked over at her. Then suddenly felt compelled to do something about it because of a hair or skin condition she has. If it’s me #1 I would never be in a open marriage but.. If I was in his place if I went up to do something it would not have been slap, I would have dropped him. Slap or punch it’s still battery. But if my wife was treating me like she is likely treating him I would tell her to go do it. Or have her latest boy toy to do it. Easier said than done as she has him by the wallet. And in California so she gets half and would likely pay massive child support and alimony and she would get the house and he would have to pay for it. He is worth 350 million. He would still survive.

[null and void]

I rather doubt manners have been publicly taught here in 50 years.

Some parents have taught them at home, some faiths have taught them in the privacy of their places of worship and associated private schools, but that’s about it.

[Tell It Right]

It’s Hollywood. The open-handed slap was a metaphor of the Smiths’ “open” marriage. LOL

[eastexsteve]

” But Hollywood awards shows are traditionally a venue where much worse things have been said about celebrities ..” Sorry, but a mulitude of wrongs don’t make a right. You don’t insult and disrespect a mans wife - especially with him sitting there. The feminization of men is what is destroying this culture. Men need to stand up and start defending their families and what is important to them and stop cringing in the corner like wimps. Chris Rocks had it coming, and Will Smith had guts enough to deliver the goods. I’m not a fan of either actor, but it’s way past time that some of these bad actors who get their jollies off of the misfortune of others get what they deserve. Kudos to Will Smith.

[fatima]

I think it was fake.I had a black man ask me why Chris didn’t hit back.I told him the ratings were rock bottom and after the hit they went up.

[drSteve78]

It’s ingrained in the Black culture

And not just ACCEPTABLE, but EXPECTED