Posted on 03/27/2022 2:21:25 PM PDT by Renfrew
I have not seen the Russians using any WWII armored vehicles in any of the photos/film clips I’ve watched for the last 6 weeks. The two photos on this thread are of a 2S19 152mm sp gun, which was introduced in the 1990’s.
The only WWII tank I have seen was a T-34 war monument that the Russians opened fire at as they went through a Ukrainian town.
A key problem with the Russian army is the same as during WWII and the Cold War: the lack of a profession NCO corps. They tried to create one as part of the 2012 “reforms” and failed. And their logistics support is nearly non-existent.
I don’t know why Freepers keep posting news about this war. Nobody here believes anything reported from any source anyway and the thread quickly devolves into dueling “You’re just a Russian/Ukrainian stooge!”
I was told the following by an old German associate who was in the Kriegsmarine. On the retreat from the Ukraine he was posted to an Sd.Kfz(Sonderkraftfahrzueg 8 ton) 7/1 mit 20mm Flakvierling. An 8 ton semi-track mounting 4 20mm auto cannon. They were stationed on a sunken road running along a ridge to the west of a wide valley with forest on the other side. The road was packed with troops and armour. This was on the edge of the Pripyet Marshes. The valley was 800 yards wide. It was pristine and covered in white snow. At 10AM on the first day thousands of Russian horsemen charged out of the forest. It was over over in 15 minutes, no Russian survivors, men or horses. The valley was red. Two infantry mass wave attacks followed that day. The next day four human wave attacks. Each attack getting progresively weaker. He has no idea how many were killed. He couldn’t believe they would not stop. He says he was never right in the head after this. He was a baker. He only talked about this once. He cried through most of it.
I am amazed at how the armored tanks and other equipment are blown apart. They are not a safe place to be.
The OPFOR reports look about the same as the 80s.
Poorly led and poorly fed. Not trained, vodka issues, no leadership or creativity when leaders killed.
Why is it not a secure link?
Can you post an image of the alerts that you get?
The freight isn’t as bad as the paperwork——but it would make a heckuva mail box.
The T-72 & T-90 tanks have automatic loaders so the ammunition is not separated and compartmented as on the M-1. That accounts for turrets being blown off.
Leadership on the front line. Often undervalued.
How many years did we fight in Vietnam, Afghanistan, and Iraq before turning tail?
Bottom pic is mobile artillery, not a “tank”.
Because Americans love to get involved in foreign wars.
We still think of ourselves as world policeman.
Except for this is in the way..
It is hard to have an effective NCO body when the government is a dictatorship that punishes independent thought and initiative. That is the main effectiveness of our NCOs, in Vietnam the Lieutenants were transferred in and out every year, but it was the NCOs who helped them stay out of trouble. On the other hand with a dedicated enemy and a war being fought for big money contracts on port facilities and other military contracts, failure is likely. Unfortunately, those lessons take longer to be learned, with our dedicated NCOs holding it together. For the Russians in Ukraine it is being learned quickly, and Russian generals are dying because they are needed near the front to make decisions that a competent NCO would be allowed to do by the US army.
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I was told the following by an old German associate who was in the Kriegsmarine.
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Wonder why was this Kriegsmarine sailor was in a unit out in the boonies instead of on a ship?
Maybe because late in the war naval units were being formed as ground troops because much of the Kriegsmarine was confined to port. Similarly their shore establishment was downsized.
I dont know if any naval flak units were in what was left of Army Group Center. I think there were some in AG North.
Brave shows 2 items blocked, which is actually pretty low. Most news pages will show about 10-25 items blocked.
I distinctly remember getting up one morning above two years ago and I thought, “I can no longer believe anything my government says or the news says without solid independent proof.”
It shook me up and saddened me. But that is the nature of the US now.
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