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To: Zhang Fei
That all assumes the numbers you're posting are accurate and not propaganda. The Russian MOD listed the number causalities yesterday at 1351.

But, if you believe these numbers, then you believe the Russians in the same region have lost more troops to the Ukrainian military than the Soviets did to a much more formidable German military WWII. I certainly don't believe that.

The Russians own the air space and sea. They could be engaging in "shock and awe" if they wanted to in major cities like Kiev. And, they probably would be if the causalities were anywhere near the number you're quoting.

What I can't figure out is why you would believe the Biden regime on this. They lie about everything else. But, you think they telling the truth about this?

Or do you think Ukrainian government is when it is using video game footage to show the destruction of Russian planes?

12 posted on 03/26/2022 3:45:05 PM PDT by Kazan
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To: Kazan

[But, if you believe these numbers, then you believe the Russians in the same region have lost more troops to the Ukrainian military than the Soviets did to a much more formidable German military WWII. I certainly don’t believe that.]


You must be misinformed. The Russians lost millions of troops in the region, or almost 200,000 a month.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties_of_the_Soviet_Union#Military_losses

For them, 15,000 dead would have been a blessing. During WWII, they fought hard, after some initial stumbles, because the Nazis wanted them killed to the last man, woman and child, and repopulate their territory with Germans.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hunger_Plan

No such reason exists in Ukraine for any Russian to risk life and limb. While many would have no issues with Putin becoming Vladimir the Greater on the strength of an easy victory, risking his own life to make Putin famous is probably not on any Russian’s bucket list.


14 posted on 03/26/2022 3:53:00 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: Kazan

[What I can’t figure out is why you would believe the Biden regime on this. They lie about everything else. But, you think they telling the truth about this?]


Biden lies for practice. That’s not debatable. But he doesn’t lie about everything. That would hurt his credibility.

And we’re not relying on Biden’s output. We have actual people on the ground, publishing through various news outlets. And it’s not Ukraine that invaded Russia, but the other way around.

Lastly, it’s the Russians, not Joe Biden, that came up with the blood libel that Americans created AIDS to kill black people:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_INFEKTION

I don’t have a problem with Russian sleaze. I like Russians. I don’t even have a problem with Putin. But he needs to stay *within* Russia’s borders. As they were after the break-up of the Soviet Union in 1991.


15 posted on 03/26/2022 4:05:26 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: Kazan

Well, you believe Russian propaganda; perhaps he believes Ukrainian propaganda.

The simple fact is Russia was expecting this to be a cakewalk, and it is anything but. Arrogance and overconfidence generally backfire.

If Ukraine is going to fall, I fully expect an insurgency that will make the Soviets’ experience in Afghanistan pale in comparison. Ukrainians apparently HATE the Russians, and would relish some payback.

The Russian military is an over-rated, ill-prepared, maladjusted joke. It has some big toys, but on an operations level, they pretty much suck. But, historically, they have always been that way. It is how their armed forces have been constructed for generations. Unlike the US military, which operates under a delegated authority (i.e., everyone knows the mission and its objective, and are committed to carrying it out; thus, local control of an operation is at the company and battalion level; and all NCOs have the authority to carry out the mission even if all their officers are out of the fight).


20 posted on 03/26/2022 4:46:59 PM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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