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Now the RUSSIANS face being surrounded as Ukraine continues successful counter-attacks, analysts say – with footage showing a tank being obliterated and missiles raining down on Putin's troops
Daily Mail ^ | 3/24/2022 | Chris Pleasance

Posted on 03/24/2022 7:30:40 AM PDT by marcusmaximus

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“Ukraine destroyed a Russian tank-carrier ship docked in the captured port city of Berdyansk “

We tracked that ship. Nice job.

I do not believe it was Russian propaganda which gave the location of the ship.

You cannot hide a ship that size. There are several sources the Ukrainians may have used to track the ship in near real time.

Most people have not realized this war is significantly different, because both sides know where the armored vehicles, troop concentrations, and ships are, in near real time, because both have access to satellite surveillance in near real time.

In my opinion, this is a huge advantage for the Ukrainians, as they are not as heavy in armor and are not relying on ships. It is much easier to hide troop concentrations in cities, which the Ukrainians hold.

21 posted on 03/24/2022 7:48:26 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: Stingray51; ScottinVA

RE: If the Russians get desperate enough (and if they are organized and care enough about their own troops to do it), they surely have the artillery and rockets and heavy bombers etc. to turn up the heat very high on any attackers.

There is one fearsome factor we should consider... if Putin gets desperate for results and goes berserk, he might just do what Saddam Hussein did against the Kurds, where he killed 5,000 of them in one fell swoop — UNLEASH CHEMICAL WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION.

*THAT* would be a game changer!!


22 posted on 03/24/2022 7:49:10 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: Who is John Galt?

Neocon think tanks are deeply saddened by Ukraine’s “unexpected” successes. They said Kiev would fall in 3 days.


23 posted on 03/24/2022 7:49:17 AM PDT by marcusmaximus
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To: marcusmaximus

Sorry, disinfo

to keep the ukes fighting a hopeless war that will kill thousands of people

But no great losses of American lives or territory are expected

and weapons dealers will prosper


24 posted on 03/24/2022 7:49:34 AM PDT by silverleaf (“Freedom ultimately means the right of other people to do things that you disagree with”. T. Sowell )
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To: marcusmaximus

“Stratego” and Battleship. My 2 favorite games as a kid.


25 posted on 03/24/2022 7:51:18 AM PDT by traderrob6
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To: marcusmaximus

Hard to say what the truth is now but in the meantime the Russians are killing innocent women and children.


26 posted on 03/24/2022 7:52:51 AM PDT by rrrod (6)
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To: marcusmaximus

Ive been saying it from the beginning...You can come in, but you can’t leave.

Frankly, the Russians would be best served by leaving right now. Putin has ordered his best unit, the Moscow based 1st Tank Guards to Ukraine.

Putin is no strongman or Zukhov. He’s the same smallish arrogant little KGB punk, he has always been.


27 posted on 03/24/2022 7:53:23 AM PDT by rbmillerjr (Defeating China is impossible without understanding that Russia is our enemy)
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To: Stingray51
they surely have the artillery and rockets and heavy bombers etc. to turn up the heat very high on any attackers.

The Russians seem to have a very limited supply of precision munitions. So they resort to area bombardment by plane or artillery, especially rockets. But the Ukrainians are not using massed tanks or infantry: they are dispersed and move quickly. So I'm not sure what Russian artillery is doing besides killing any civilians in the area.

The Ukrainians seem to let any massed Russian formations pass and then whack them from the flanks and rear. This must be very disorienting to the Russians, and because their command loop is so slow to react, a Russian unit may advance and then halt only to have its supplies cut and then slowly be whittled down by repeated Ukrainian attacks.

Neither side seem capable of conducting warfare on an operational level, the Russians due to poor training, bad equipment and faulty logistics and the Ukrainians due to lack of manpower and equipment. So neither side can force a decisive engagement, although the Russians seem to be trying to cut off the Ukrainian forces in the east by a thrust south through Izyum and also trying to force capitulation of Cherniv to the northeast of Kiev.

28 posted on 03/24/2022 7:53:42 AM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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Hopefully every Russian bastard on that ship roasted alive.

L


29 posted on 03/24/2022 7:54:33 AM PDT by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: marcusmaximus

This would shock the Russians. Without the ability of the Russian Navy to control the Black Sea, land troops and supplies without significant hinderance, the entire Russian position in Ukraine would be untenable. Alfred Mahan wrote in the 19th century the definitive role naval control has in war. Wonder what he would have thought about the new technologies and the real vulnerability of surface combatants.


30 posted on 03/24/2022 7:58:21 AM PDT by allendale
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The Duran’s Alexander Mercouris and Gonzalo Lira both predict a Russian victory by the end of April.


31 posted on 03/24/2022 7:59:53 AM PDT by Kazan
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Duran Duran?
32 posted on 03/24/2022 8:03:34 AM PDT by marcusmaximus
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To: traderrob6

And ‘Risk’ too?


33 posted on 03/24/2022 8:05:37 AM PDT by desertsolitaire
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To: marktwain

I’ve been posting constantly, the Russians have no way to hide or move covertly. Fat juicy sitting ducks ready for never ending ambushes.


34 posted on 03/24/2022 8:18:16 AM PDT by BiglyCommentary
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I have the utmost confidence that our leadership has a contingency plan in place in case Putin goes batsht crazy and pops off a wmd or nuke.

Biden/Harris...they got this. Sleep easy folks!


35 posted on 03/24/2022 8:18:22 AM PDT by BuckeyeGOP ( )
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To: marcusmaximus

um... quote “then they will be unable to reinforce or resupply themselves”

the russians control the air, they can air drop in whatever supplies are needed, I am confused by this statement.


36 posted on 03/24/2022 8:19:41 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009
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To: Renfrew

I suspect the Russians are being enveloped and then will be captured. That is the classic strategy used by Russian generals over and over and over as they defeated the Wermacht


37 posted on 03/24/2022 8:23:17 AM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. N.C. +12) Promoting Afro Heritage diversity will destroy the democrats)
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To: Kazan

Not unless the Russians can find significant reinforcements.
And that means at least 2x the forces they sent in the first time. And they don’t really have them.

As a proportional back of the envelope thing, the Russians have already sent in about half their active tank inventory, 1200 out of 2500. Those are all their “modern” tanks. And they probably lost 40% of that, 500 out of 1200.

To bull through the Ukrainians, rearmed by NATO, they are going to need at least 2000 tanks (IMHO), and I don’t see where they are going to get them, with competent crews. To even get replacements for their losses they will have to strip almost half of their remaining active force away from their borders and reserves for internal security duties.

The only way they do this is to mobilize their conscript reservists and start pulling their equipment reserve from mothballs - or rather start repairing thousands of those rusty hulks. That will take months.


38 posted on 03/24/2022 8:23:56 AM PDT by buwaya
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Forget about confusion

the real question is — does the statement sadden you and other Freepers?


39 posted on 03/24/2022 8:25:01 AM PDT by Old West Conservative
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To: TexasFreeper2009

The West has been pouring in a lot of anti-aircraft weapons. The Russians control how many planes they want shot out of the sky by not sending them.


40 posted on 03/24/2022 8:25:29 AM PDT by BiglyCommentary
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