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How did Putin manage to de-Russify East Ukraine in just 8 years?
Kamil Galeev via Twitter ^ | 3/16/2022 | Kamil Galeev

Posted on 03/20/2022 7:09:22 PM PDT by Zhang Fei

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To: BenLurkin

A very large part of Ukraine was under the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth for a long time, which is why their culture is actually quite different from Russia’s.


21 posted on 03/20/2022 7:49:34 PM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

Yes: Putin does not have the Soviet Union’s ability to command 40% or 50% of Russia’s economy to support military operations.


22 posted on 03/20/2022 7:51:08 PM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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To: AAABEST
It doesn't matter whether these points repeat "he precise globaloid, swampy, Schwab/Soros, MSM talking points...to a tee."

It only matters whether they're true.

23 posted on 03/20/2022 7:52:43 PM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

As I stated early on, had Putin just kept his moves to
the two “republics” and fortified Crimea he probably
could have pulled this off. The liberal powers would
have accepted that but He bit off a bit more than
he could chew, much less the world swallow.


24 posted on 03/20/2022 7:53:45 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Zhang Fei

ABSOLUTELY GREAT ARTICLE, THANK YOU!


25 posted on 03/20/2022 7:54:23 PM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com
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To: tet68

Isolated megalomaniacs begin to believe in the fake personas they present and in their delusions.

He’s been living in a past that the people he’s trying to control just don’t live in anymore.


26 posted on 03/20/2022 7:58:50 PM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

A strong national identity is forged when a hostile power invades and starts to wreak havoc. Squabbling among disparate groups disappears overnight.


27 posted on 03/20/2022 8:02:02 PM PDT by TigerLikesRoosterNew
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To: 2CAVTrooper
“You're going to anger the resident Putin fan bois.“

How credible is your message when you state it as would a wise guy teenager? If you're trying to persuade then you're failing.

28 posted on 03/20/2022 8:03:28 PM PDT by Born in 1950 (Anti left, nothing else.)
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To: TigerLikesRoosterNew

Exactly. Putin has managed to promote and encourage the exact kind of Ukrainian national identity he and his supporters in the U.S. claimed never existed.


29 posted on 03/20/2022 8:04:19 PM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin ( .)
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To: BenLurkin

Good picture


30 posted on 03/20/2022 8:11:00 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

Once forged, it is nearly impossible to break.


31 posted on 03/20/2022 8:11:37 PM PDT by TigerLikesRoosterNew
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

Russia can afford a lengthy engagement. The Chineese have encouraged them in that direction. A lengthy engagement will keep oil and mineral prices high. Fertilizere and wheat will not be sold. This inflation will hasten the end of the dollar as a reserve currency. This is the Chineese strategic objective.


32 posted on 03/20/2022 8:14:41 PM PDT by frithguild (The warmth and goodness of Gaia is a nuclear reactor in the Earth's core that burns Thorium)
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To: WinstonSmith1984

[The only question that matters in your scenario is...does he have 100% control of his nukes. If he does not, the have at the guy...if he does... you need to break his nuclear chain first. Otherwise you are playing with thermonuclear war if you shoot and miss.]


Truman threatened nukes over Korea. Eisenhower threatened nukes over Quemoy and Matsu. Threatening and doing are different things. Putin uses nukes, and the Russian population is a literal grease stain on China’s newest western province. Putin goes from maybe Vladimir the Greater to “what is Vladimir?” and “what is Russia?”.

Putin’s not suicidal, and he’s certainly not interested in wiping out the Putin name or Russia as a biological or geographical entity. He’ll withdraw the troops to Russia and set about the grim task of killing his internal rivals once he judges the war to be unwinnable at an acceptable cost.


33 posted on 03/20/2022 8:16:51 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: pierrem15

Nearly nothing from the MSM/swamp/globaloids is EVER true, so thank you for the affirmation... or confirmation.


34 posted on 03/20/2022 8:17:19 PM PDT by AAABEST (NY/DC/LA media/political/military industrial complex DELENDA EST)
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To: pierrem15

Their language is Ruthenian.


35 posted on 03/20/2022 8:17:22 PM PDT by frithguild (The warmth and goodness of Gaia is a nuclear reactor in the Earth's core that burns Thorium)
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To: frithguild

[Russia can afford a lengthy engagement. The Chineese have encouraged them in that direction. A lengthy engagement will keep oil and mineral prices high. Fertilizere and wheat will not be sold. This inflation will hasten the end of the dollar as a reserve currency. This is the Chineese strategic objective.]


It’s completely feasible to move to another reserve currency. All they need is a country willing to play the patsy - to absorb the cost of large and ongoing trade deficits. If China is willing to hollow out its industry in order to make the yuan a significant reserve currency, that should be entertaining to watch. Note that Germany, Japan and Switzerland, some of the candidates for reserve currency boltholes, have negative interest rates for this very reason - to discourage foreigners from parking their cash there. Reserve currency status artificially jacks up your currency and makes your exports less competitive.

The Chinese want the buying power of reserve currency status without taking the trade deficits that go with that buying power. Here’s a hint. It doesn’t work that way.

There’s another big issue - the country with the biggest economy naturally has the biggest currency exchange volumes. That makes its currency exchange trades the ones with the lowest bid-ask spreads. If you use a different currency, one party has to be willing to accept the additional costs from that arrangement. If the Saudis are willing to accept a lower price from the Chinese, or the Chinese are willing to pay a higher price, maybe this will work out to everyone’s satisfaction.

But someone in there is getting the short end of the stick vs working with the dollar. The real bottom line is that people use the dollar not because they like Americans. They use the dollar for the same reason they use iOS or Android phones - they offer the most bang for the buck. Whether operating system or currency, their association with the US has only the barest relationship to the reason people use them.

The dollar is the reserve currency of choice for two reasons - the size of the economy and the fact that unlike Japan, Germany and Switzerland, we don’t charge people interest to park their reserves in dollars to discourage them from doing so. The yuan will *never* be a reserve currency. They don’t want the trade deficits, and no one trusts them.

The Chinese king (Trump’s verbiage in frank conversation with Xi) wiped out $100b is American stockholder value by declaring Chinese for-profit education companies listed on US exchanges non-profits. I wouldn’t trust Xi with the loose change from a trip to the grocery store, never mind a nation’s forex reserves.


36 posted on 03/20/2022 8:20:02 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: Vigilanteman

Let the UK, France, and Germany jump on Russia.

Not on my border.


37 posted on 03/20/2022 8:22:35 PM PDT by eyedigress (Trump is my President! )
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To: frithguild
Depends on the time period. A 1000 years ago just about anyone east of the Oder down to Albania could understand one another or at least mostly. Ukrainian language speakers can still understand just about everything in Polish or Russian, though the reverse is not true.

The last people formally classified as Ruthenian speakers lived in what is now southeastern Poland. They were driven out to Ukraine after WWII, and the territory they formerly inhabited is now Biesczady National Park.

38 posted on 03/20/2022 8:24:38 PM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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To: Zhang Fei

Yes, I agree, and your scenario is the best case scenario right now. And it assumes that Putin can see a way out and him stay in power and alive. If he can’t see a path out and if he has 100% control of his nukes then I think he will take down the world with him... and for those left to write history.... He will have been the great destroyer of the world and will leave his mark like no other. What I am saying is simply this...stop threatening the man, if you are going to kill him...then kill him..., but stop talking about it. And realize this... if you shoot and miss you may trigger a thermonuclear war. So shut up and and act or don’t but shut up about killing the man and shut up about your designs for him. What I think would be more effective to getting to your end state is a massive build up in oil production in the US and arms in Europe.


39 posted on 03/20/2022 8:33:37 PM PDT by WinstonSmith1984 (The DOJ is a far left militia.)
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To: TigerLikesRoosterNew

Yup. What a monumental miscalculation.


40 posted on 03/20/2022 8:35:57 PM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin ( .)
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