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Ukraine reportedly found and killed at least 1 Russian general by tracing unsecured phone signal
The Week ^ | 3/17/2022 | Peter Weber

Posted on 03/17/2022 4:49:28 AM PDT by tlozo

Ukraine has identified four Russian generals it says have been killed since Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered his invasion of Ukraine three weeks ago, and NATO officials have confirmed three of those deaths and Putin, one of them. "Western officials say that around 20 Russian generals were in Ukraine as part of the war effort, and that they may have pushed closer to the front to boost morale," which is sagging under the weight of heavy casualties, The New York Times reports.

The slain generals were identified as Maj. Gen. Andrei Kolesnikov, Maj. Gen. Vitaly Gerasimov, Maj. Gen. Andrei Sukhovetsky, and on Wednesday, Maj. Gen. Oleg Mityaev. Some of those commanders were reportedly killed in combat, but "two American military officials said that many Russian generals are talking on unsecured phones and radios," the Times reports, and "in at least one instance, they said, the Ukrainians intercepted a general's call, geolocated it, and attacked his location, killing him and his staff."

Overall, at least 7,000 Russian troops have been killed and 14,000 to 21,000 injured, according to U.S. intelligence estimates. "Losses like this affect morale and unit cohesion, especially since these soldiers don't understand why they're fighting," Evelyn Farkas, the top Pentagon official for Russia and Ukraine during the Obama administration, tells the Times. "Your overall situational awareness decreases. Someone's got to drive, someone's got to shoot."


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: russia; ukraine; war
Clockwise from left, Andrei Kolesnikov, Andrey Sukhovetsky, Oleg Mityaev and Vitaliy Gerasimov have all been killed in the fighting, according to Ukraine


1 posted on 03/17/2022 4:49:28 AM PDT by tlozo
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To: tlozo

Like most “news” stories, I will take this one with a couple of grains of salt.
To quote the late great Elmer Fudd, “Be vewe vewe caweful.”


2 posted on 03/17/2022 4:57:47 AM PDT by Tupelo (“Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*ck things up” (Barack Obama))
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To: tlozo
Ukrainian Forces destroyed 3x MT-LB, 2x BMP-2, a BTR-80 and 2x more supply trucks in an ambush


3 posted on 03/17/2022 5:06:05 AM PDT by tlozo (Trump-the Russian invasion of Ukraine is " truly a crime against humanity")
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To: tlozo
The 28th Mechanized Brigade of the Ukrainian Army destroyed/captured more Russian armour; a BMD-2, a BMD-4M, transport truck, and a T-72B3.


4 posted on 03/17/2022 5:11:06 AM PDT by tlozo (Trump-the Russian invasion of Ukraine is " truly a crime against humanity")
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These gernerals have a need to check in with their mistresses every day?
5 posted on 03/17/2022 5:18:12 AM PDT by Deaf Smith (When a Texan takes his chances, chances will be taken that's for sure.)
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These gernerals have a need to check in with their mistresses every day?

Their secure comms are not working too well or at all, and they now rely of cell phones and other “in the clear” radio frequencies.

This is a huge downgrade from the Soviet days when all high level comm used a 4 channel encrypted PPM system. The only clear communications was to pass messages in a 5-letter one-day pad code, unless an emergency.


6 posted on 03/17/2022 5:25:41 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: tlozo

Well done, Ukes.


7 posted on 03/17/2022 5:32:58 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Кчерту Путина, Kчерту Россию)
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To: PIF

From June, 1941:

“We are under artillery bombardment. What are we to do?”

“You must be crazy! And why is your message not in code?”


8 posted on 03/17/2022 5:37:42 AM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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To: Tupelo

More like all the salt mines in the world. I doubt the Russian military is the same as some African warlord’s militia.


9 posted on 03/17/2022 5:41:48 AM PDT by wastedyears (The left would kill every single one of us and our families if they knew they could get away with it)
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To: tlozo

Might have been able to kill even more russian generals if the idiots just shut their mouths instead of running to the media to gush about it and in doing so, tipping the other russians off.


10 posted on 03/17/2022 5:44:57 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (They intend to murder us. Prep if you want to live and live like you are prepping for eternal life)
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To: 17th Miss Regt

1941
(Unit A) “We are under artillery bombardment. What are we to do?”

(Unit B) “You must be crazy! And why is your message not in code?”

1968
(Unit A) “ABGFR PTMHA ABPFG PYGPA”

(Unit B) “TYPFA BVABA URTDF ABAGT”


11 posted on 03/17/2022 6:08:30 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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If these things are happening as stated, it is because these people do not follow OPSEC.

I know. When I worked in Hong Kong at the Consualte as an IMS, my new boss brought his cell phone into the SKIF. He would sit and talk with his wife on his cell phone. It is illegal for us to take our phones into the TS Vault or Com’s center... It seems we have arrogant people who do as they want and not as they are expected to uphold rules. I waited for some outside spook-hunters to stop by our office and mentioned it to them, and then he took a call while talking with them from his wife... nothing changed.

The Russian Generals are either being culled by Putin or they have invited their own deaths by using “radios, e.g., cell phones” that are unsecured.


12 posted on 03/17/2022 6:17:49 AM PDT by Jumper ( )
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"hey may have pushed closer to the front to boost morale"

Or, they may have been ordered to the front by Putin in order to "advance, or die trying".

13 posted on 03/17/2022 6:29:47 AM PDT by norwaypinesavage (Capitalism is what happens when you leave people alone.)
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To: Jumper
$5 says simple arrogance.

They've done whatever they wanted for decades, and no one tells them what to do, unless it's the vig-takers above them.
14 posted on 03/17/2022 7:02:13 AM PDT by larrytown (A Cadet will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do. Then they graduate...)
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