Posted on 03/17/2022 3:42:13 AM PDT by where's_the_Outrage?
Now THAT is a great point!
...not to mention the atrocities committed under Communism.
Never, ever, mentioned in my history class. Probably have to be a PhD candidate in Russian History before anyone lets you know about it.
It’s about programming young Americans for hating their country for acts committed generations ago, while leaving them too ignorant to look beyond the MSM for our current government misdeeds.
“What about a “grant” to educate Americans about the internment of the Patriots in DC Concentration Camps right now?”
I get what you mean, but ‘internment’ the way it was used with the Japanese was nowhere near as bad as the guys have it DC Central Jail. DC Central is closer to gulag conditions, rather than a boring place to do nothing other than (hopefully) learn some English.
So what!!! It’s about time bills are passed to help America and Americans be number 1!
“...nor to educate our youth about the immense slaughter of innocent Chinese by the Japanese in World War II.”
I saw General Chennault’s wife interviewed, and she told the number of millions of Chinese civilians killed by the Japanese. Did not know it was that many.
Also lost to history is the number of German civilians killed in Europe for revenge AFTER the war ended. Probably exceeded the number of Jews killed in the camps. Right after the war, the French government had the number of Jews killed at 800,000. The British had it at 3 million, and that number stuck for some years. Now it is 6 million, and you can get into trouble if you don’t comply with that number.
I once worked with a Jewish guy in Houston. He scoffed at that number; told me there were not 6 million Jews in all of Europe at that time. He must have been anti-Semitic.
I hate election years. Congress putting bills out that are about politics and nothing to do with what they should be doing.
Will German and Italian Americans that were discriminated against also be included?
my bet is that the majority of republicans and all democrats would vote to put people like us IN internment camps.
You're full of crap.
And if you want to debate, you need to know that it is a subject which I am extremely familiar with.
Lauren is fantastic, but she got it very wrong on this one.
We all learned about this is history class .
It was rightfully taught as a small subset of events during WWII.
I’m sure now they want to make the centerpiece of all events during WWII.
“you are full of crap”
What is your source for this statement? As you say, before you speak to a topic, you should know what you’re talking about. And, what does me being full of crap, whether true or not, have to do with the topic? Possibly, the only connection is your limited ability to express yourself.
In real time, there was recognition of the difference between Japanese citizens (including native-born and naturalized), and non-citizen residents.
For example, from the Library of Congress’ Chronicling America
“Japanese Legionnaires [WWI veterans] meet in internment camps.” Detroit Evening Times, Sept. 2, 1942, p. 18
(This article was very sympathetic to those who were interned.)
and from a Time magazine retrospective:
” ... neither side presents an accurate picture of the Japanese American detention—or the Supreme Court’s response ... “
https://time.com/4578616/japanese-internment-debate/
The distinction of citizens from aliens is to be found in the Supreme Court case, Korematsu v. United States. This decision was later overturned on the (narrow) grounds that the government withheld information from the court.
Because of this injustice (the government withholding information), compensation was awarded.
Importantly, the principle in the Supreme Court decision was not overturned, viz., that in grave enough circumstances the government could remove citizens of a particular heritage from vital areas.
My FIL was the founder of the Japanese American National Museum in Los Angeles.
Most of those put in camp (over 200,000) were American citizens (Nisei) - not Issei.
They could only take to camp what they could carry. Many lost everything else.
Those from Terminal Island even had their houses razed to the ground by our government while they were interred.
Many of the Japanese-Americans in camp volunteered for the US Army, and most of those became part of the segregated 100/442nd Combat Infantry Battalion.
The 100/442nd was the most decorated American unit in US history. Their motto was "Go For Broke", since they were seeking to prove their allegiance to the US. This is the same battalion that rescued the Texas Lost Battalion in the Vosges mountains - when previous Allied attempts had failed.
Upon departure from Internment camps, each family was given $20 and a one-way ticket to their destination.
There were very, very few "no no boys" who answered no to questions 27 and 28 of the "loyalty questions" they were forced to fill out in camp. Those answering no were primarily upset at their very own country for disowning them and treating them like garbage.
Each family in camp was put in a one-room plywood barrack with one bare lightbulb in the middle. Their "beds" were burlap bags stuffed with straw. Latrines, showers, and kitchens were communal. There was no concept of privacy.
These people were not "the enemy", as FDR so traitorously made it look.
There was no excuse for those internment camps. None.
I am sorry for your hurt. Possibly you will never get over it. But, your emotion disables you from discussing the matter.
You ask for respect in part because of the service of Japanese-Americans during WWII and say I am full of crap. I had three uncles who served during WWII, two Italian-American and one German-American. They fought against their very own ancestral nationality. My father served during the Korean War. I during the Viet Nam War. My son during the Iraq/Afghanistan War. And, you say I am full of crap. But, instead of me saying you are full of crap, I say you are hurt. To me, you don’t or maybe can’t care about treating others with the respect you demand for yourself.
By the way, did you serve in the military or did you raise a son who served in the military? (If you served, I take back everything I said about you and will simply say instead that you have earned the right to your opinion.)
In the case of the 100th Infantry, let’s take a complete look:
1,400 Japanese Americans served in that unit, out of a population of 125,000; or, about 1 percent.
In comparison, 11 million served in the armed forces overall, of a population of 132 million; or, about 8 percent.
What are we to make of this? That 1,400 Japanese Americans served with distinction; or, that only 1 Japanese American served for every 8 Non-Japanese Americans, relative to their number in the population?
This coin turns out to have two very different sides!
Here I’m going to repeat myself a bit: When it was determined that the rights of Japanese-Americans had been harmed (by a negligence on the part of the government in prosecuting its case), a payment was made. Sorry the payment was a flat payment, and not tied to the actual harms suffered by individuals, such as the particularly unfortunate cases you mention. The flat payments miscommunicated that the harm was done to a race, when differentiated payments would have communicated that the harm was done to individuals.
I had many relatives who served.
My uncle was in the 99th Infantry Division, 394th Regiment, Company I during WWII.
He fought in the Battle of the Bulge, and was field promoted to Sergeant when his was KIA there. He then fought across Belgium to the Rhine. At the Rhine they happened to come across the last standing bridge at Remagen, that Germany had failed to destroy to slow down the Allied advance.
The 99th crossed the Remagen bridge on March 9, 1945 - the first division "en masse" to do so. They then fought to establish a bridgehead on the German side.
On March 11, 1945 my uncle was killed in action.
And yes, you are full of crap on your internment camp remarks...
as one veteran to another, so are you
Excuse me, you did not indicate that you are a veteran (nor that you raised a son to join the military).
Never said I did.
But you're still full of crap for your comments about the internment camps that you know nothing about...
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