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To: Sir_Humphrey; Lurker
said, "some of my conservative brethren acting so irrationally they may have a point"

yes. Most are trolls some get hooked by the trolls. I hope you're not either.

Ukraine was never a sovereign country. The Ukraine literally belongs to Russia.
https://europerenaissance.com/2022/02/28/ukraine-does-not-have-any-borders-so-what-exactly-are-they-defending/
175 posted on 03/16/2022 2:08:00 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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To: Steve Van Doorn
Ukraine was never a sovereign country. The Ukraine literally belongs to Russia.

Lol, some idiot with a website is telling Ukrainians they don't exist, obviously they are not listening.

195 posted on 03/16/2022 2:47:56 PM PDT by tlozo (Trump-the Russian invasion of Ukraine is " truly a crime against humanity")
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To: Steve Van Doorn
> Ukraine was never a sovereign country. The Ukraine literally belongs to Russia.

And then you put a useless link in there from a Putin Propaganda blog.

You could use the same logic that Russia should be taken over by China since the Mongols took it over in the 14th century.

Oh and...
241 posted on 03/16/2022 5:15:37 PM PDT by VictoryGal (Never give up, never surrender! )
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To: Steve Van Doorn

That source article you linked is a steaming pile of crap, unmoored from reality.

Ukraine has been independent and an internationally recognized state since 1991.

The Russian Federation itself recognized Ukraine as independent and has maintained diplomatic relations with them since that year.

Border disputes do not prevent you from being an independent nation. The US had ongoing series of border disputes with Great Britain over Maine, The Great Lakes, The Louisiana Purchase, The Oregon Country, and Alaska stretching until 1903. We had border disputes with Spain over Florida and New Spain until 1819.

Independent Texas had a border dispute with Mexico for all ten years of it’s existence.

The entire article is willfully ignorant or deceitful garbage.


244 posted on 03/16/2022 5:26:15 PM PDT by GreenLanternCorps (Hi! I'm the Dread Pirate Roberts! (TM) Atsk about franchise opportunities in your area.)
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To: Steve Van Doorn

Your link is shite. Ukraine split from the USSR fair and square. Russia has no more of a claim to Ukraine than Mexico does to our Southwest.


251 posted on 03/16/2022 6:03:28 PM PDT by Sir_Humphrey ( I wiIl not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed, or numbered! My life is my own!i)
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