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Ukraine war: Drone shows destruction in Mariupol
Sky News ^ | Monday 14 March 2022

Posted on 03/14/2022 11:50:02 AM PDT by Grzegorz 246

Video at the link.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.sky.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: mariupol; mongolinvasion; ukraine; war
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To: CodeJockey

President Volodymyr Zelenskyy is asking a no fly zone be established
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He is losing, he can pause/ stop the war by initiating negotiations, he won’t, he has to explain his government’s non enforcement of the Minsk agreements…..in the mean time Vlad tightens the screws…..both governments are evil and corrupted.


21 posted on 03/14/2022 1:00:39 PM PDT by delta7
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To: delta7

Odessa will be the next big target.

Total control over the northern coast of the Black Sea is the prize.


22 posted on 03/14/2022 1:00:56 PM PDT by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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To: Drew68

Also linking the forces around Kiev to the southern groups will cut the country in half.


23 posted on 03/14/2022 1:01:50 PM PDT by Fido969 (45 is Superman!)
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To: delta7

Neo Nazi’s from Russian controlled areas fall under “the enemy of my enemy is my friend”.

The leadership of Ukraine may be imperfect but the people of Ukraine are blameless in this war. Those fighting the Russians may not be “good guys” but are on the right side.


24 posted on 03/14/2022 1:04:06 PM PDT by jdsteel ("A Republic, Madam, if you can keep it." Sorry Ben, looks like we blew it.)
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To: delta7

Concur.

Also note:

Vlad is replaying the Syrian campaign — the pattern of cleaning enclaves is very reminiscent. Syrian campaign was a success, but it was lengthy, enclaves were taken one after another.

As for negotiations — I doubt anything would come out of them. As you said, Putin will not retreat from his conditions (and he cannot — otherwise the entire operation makes no sense). And among the conditions ... Zelensky can easily agree to three of them (Donbass, Crimea, neutral status)... but the fourth — and it is de-Nazification — is the stopper.


25 posted on 03/14/2022 1:07:16 PM PDT by mvonfr
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To: cgbg
Odessa will be the next big target.

Doubt this. Odessa will be eventually taken, but it is not the next step and not even next after next....

Let me offer a prediction: after Mariupol, we will be seeing action in Slavyansk and Kramotorsk... in fact it is already going on the peripherals.

And I'd guess some action in Nikolaev before Odessa.

26 posted on 03/14/2022 1:13:58 PM PDT by mvonfr
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To: delta7
So isn't he going to liberate and de-nazify the whole country ?
27 posted on 03/14/2022 1:24:15 PM PDT by Grzegorz 246
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To: mvonfr
Like Trump supporters de-Nazified Neo-Nazi Gadi Schwartz, with his pocket full of Soros' money, out of Trump's rally:

Trump security guards escorted Schwartz out of the Reno event.

28 posted on 03/14/2022 1:34:25 PM PDT by jonrick46 (Leftnicks chase illusions of motherships at the end of the pier.)
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To: Grzegorz 246

So isn’t he going to liberate and de-nazify the whole country ?
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The Azov Neo Nazi’s were employed primarily in the eastern half ( Russian provinces) to combat the Ukrainian Seperatists. However, US units that were sent to the western training bases, did encounter and train with Azov.
Documented.


29 posted on 03/14/2022 1:39:52 PM PDT by delta7
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To: delta7

I can’t accurately predict what Putin will do once he has achieved Ukrainian soil. This was a medieval conquest on an industrial level. Maybe he will turn the entire country into plantations and use people as slaves to produce crops as a source of income (my prediction). The bombing was the demolition program.


30 posted on 03/14/2022 1:48:33 PM PDT by jonrick46 (Leftnicks chase illusions of motherships at the end of the pier.)
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To: cgbg

Odessa is the main location of Ukraine’s NEON production. Once Russia captures Odessa they will control 70% of the world’s NEON production with China controlling almost all the rest. In case you don’t know, NEON is required for the production of microchips. In a few days it looks like the Russians and Chinese will control almost all of the world’s NEON production. That is very bad news for us. If you think the microchip shortage is bad now, just wait until the Russians and Chinese decide to hoard NEON for their own production requirements. Modern technology in the western world will grind to a halt.


31 posted on 03/14/2022 1:48:53 PM PDT by XRdsRev (Justice for Bernell Trammell, Trump supporter, murdered in 2020)
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To: XRdsRev

Good point—my prediction is that once Russia conquers Odessa they will want peace.

It will be “mission accomplished”.


32 posted on 03/14/2022 1:51:35 PM PDT by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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To: bigdaddy45

Mariupol is held by the Nazi Azov Battalion. They know what is going to happen to them if they surrender. So they’re going to fight to the death. This is why the Russians allowed a corridor to let the civilians out. Once they did that you knew they were going to mercilessly pound Mariupol until all of the Azov Battalion is wiped out.


33 posted on 03/14/2022 1:55:37 PM PDT by FLT-bird
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To: Drew68

They built a literal bridge between Crimea and the rest of Russia already. It opened a few years ago.


34 posted on 03/14/2022 1:58:23 PM PDT by FLT-bird
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To: jonrick46

I can’t accurately predict what Putin will do once he has achieved Ukrainian soil.
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I can, using Georgia as a history. He is not operating in the western half. None of his equipment suggests occupation. He will bring the Ukies to the table, force them to honor the Minsk agreements, keep Crimea, fall back to the Russian Seperatist provinces, hold “ elections”, then call it a day. Exactly what he said he would do in his speech ( which apparently no one read).

All bets off if NATO intercedes, or any funny no fly zones implemented.


35 posted on 03/14/2022 2:34:29 PM PDT by delta7
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To: delta7

My hat tip to you for your knowledge of history.


36 posted on 03/14/2022 2:52:30 PM PDT by jonrick46 (Leftnicks chase illusions of motherships at the end of the pier.)
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To: delta7
Shhhhh….you can’t mention the Azov Neo Nazi’s

They exist, but there are probably more neo nazis and antisemitic soldiers in the US military. The Azov brigade uses symbols associated with the Nazis but they fight under the direction of a Jewish commander in chief, and fight against the antisemitic elements of the Russian backed separatists.

They are an example of the type of extreme nationalism present in that part of the world. Fighting in Ukraine is likely to be pretty ugly due to long held beliefs and grudges from former wars.

37 posted on 03/14/2022 2:56:41 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: mvonfr
One should expect Mariupol to be de-Nazified within 48 hours or so

Somehow Putin considers it a victory to kill thousands of civilians in an area where 70 percent of them consider Russian their native language. That's typical for Russian communists and tyrants, they kill more Russians themselves than anybody else does.

38 posted on 03/14/2022 2:58:39 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: delta7
Read the many validated articles on Ukrainian Azov Neo Nazi’s which have been integrated into their military.

I'm not defending any actual Nazi's, but remember that we here on Free Republic are considered white supremacists, racists, and homophobes that are ready to take away the rights of women and minorities by the same people writing about the Ukrainians.

39 posted on 03/14/2022 3:01:57 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: CodeJockey
The news come out of Ukrania never seems to change.

Probably because the Russians aren't making much headway due to their incompetence, long supply lines, and inability to obtain air superiority.

40 posted on 03/14/2022 3:03:45 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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