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1 posted on 03/14/2022 9:00:29 AM PDT by elpadre
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To: elpadre

Hey maybe we should try that here...The United States of American needs, unbiased peace with security guarantees for the entire country, and the citizens of the US.


2 posted on 03/14/2022 9:04:34 AM PDT by The Louiswu (The times they are a changin. )
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How many agreements whether on paper or not has Russia ever abided by?
3 posted on 03/14/2022 9:09:35 AM PDT by Mouton (The enemy of the people is the media )
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...security guarantees

Don't join NATO.

(I know it is coming and you won't hurt my feelings)
4 posted on 03/14/2022 9:11:46 AM PDT by Tommy Revolts
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The bottom line, President Zelensky wants the war to continue.

Probably he sees that as a promising prospect.


5 posted on 03/14/2022 9:17:19 AM PDT by OVERTIME (Tammie Lee Haynes)
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Setting aside for the moment the question of whether the Russians would, in the end, actually abide by any Russia-Ukraine Treaty, stopping the war is very much in the best interests of both sides.

The Ukrainian requirement for security guarantees is going to be a problem. Only NATO or at least some of the NATO countries could do that, could tell the Ukrainians that we will defend you if you are attacked by Russia. Would Biden sign up for that? Should he? Would Trump?


6 posted on 03/14/2022 9:28:47 AM PDT by InterceptPoint (Ted, you finally endorsed.)
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Our guarantees that NATO would have their back when they gave up their nukes is why they’re in this mess. Russia’s guarantees of anything are worthless. They just lie and then do whatever they want while suckers stick by the agreement. Lesson: don’t give up your nukes and rely only on yourself.


7 posted on 03/14/2022 9:29:28 AM PDT by Inkie ( )
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Ukraine isn’t being invaded , the Russians are just undocumented visitors


8 posted on 03/14/2022 9:42:53 AM PDT by escapefromboston (Free Chauvin)
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Zelensky is finally getting it. The only path forward for Ukraine is to negotiate the 4-point plan put forth by Putin to end the violence. Zelensky can talk tough but in the end the longer he delays the more Russia will secure territory like Maripol in the south and weaken Ukraine’s sovereignty. The cavalry is not coming, and the handwriting is on the wall.


10 posted on 03/14/2022 10:00:04 AM PDT by Dave Wright
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Lots of missiles on hand is the best security guarantee he will get.

Once Russia withdraws they won’t be willing to invade Ukraine again for a log time. Unless they get a stupid concession like Ukraine disarming. Then you can guarantee they will try it again.

I’m seeing reports that Russia sent prisoners and conscripts. And they are just abandoning the equipment in Ukraine and surrendering. Give a prisoner a $1 million dollar piece of equipment and order him into another country. What could possibly go wrong?


12 posted on 03/14/2022 10:13:21 AM PDT by DannyTN
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