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US Russian oil ban ‘stupidest’ move: ConocoPhillips CEO
Fox business ^ | 03/08/2022 | Suzanne O'Halloran

Posted on 03/08/2022 5:12:47 PM PST by ChicagoConservative27

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To: Osage Orange
Tell you what…. If those drillers had hit helium, they could print their own $$$. Lol…. Helium is a rare thing and quite valuable. IIRC, the USA has a strategic helium storage in a Texas panhandle salt dome.

Dexter, KS…. I did some work for several small legacy refineries in your area dating from the early 1900s. All these were small, something like 20k barrels per day.

First was the Augusta refinery that was originally Standard Oil then Mobil after the breakup. IIRC, Williams was the owner at the time and had to take it as a part of a package deal with pipelines they wanted. Most of the refinery was already demoed and one tiny unit remained that was stripping lights out of naphtha or something. I was brought in to look at using some existing infrastructure for process wastewater handling. It was impossible, either the existing was too deteriorated or had been demoed already.

The Derby refinery in Wichita was the next one. Refinery was mostly demoed but again a small unit still operated stripping lights out of naphtha I think it was. Most of the tanks remained and the facility was mainly just a tank farm for fuels. I worked on design and costs for storm water and process water handling stuff. It wouldn't surprise me if this site is still a tank farm. As a brown field, it's not really compatible for much of anything else.

Last was the old Texaco refinery in El Dorado…. This was all a paper chase, never set foot in the place. I did some preliminary design and cost estimates for upgrading the process wastewater treatment system. A year later, I was brought back in to review another engineering company's more extensive work that looked at the whole environmental infrastructure. Between the process units and the environmental infrastructure modernization, the total investment was several hundred million $$$ with the environmental piece being a very healthy chunk of this. The decision was made to permanently shut the refinery and go into closure steps, it was cheaper.

So…. This kind of activity was typical of what marked the fate of all the small oil refineries that sprouted like mushrooms in the USA's original oil fields.

61 posted on 03/09/2022 9:50:59 AM PST by Hootowl99
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To: Tacrolimus1mg

The Democrats want to make electricity prohibitively expensive and the grid unreliable—after folks get hooked on electric vehicles.

This is similar to their strategy on the vaccines—con the suckers and then slowly acknowledge the real long term side effects.


62 posted on 03/09/2022 9:56:02 AM PST by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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To: Hootowl99
Oh yeah...you are correct..those boys could have named their price..if they had hit Helium.

Friend of mine told me they went thru too many expensive bit's...and ran out of money.

Interesting info, my FRiend.

63 posted on 03/09/2022 10:13:11 AM PST by Osage Orange (1961 VW Two Door Truck)
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To: Hootowl99

Very interesting.

The movie “Giant” was a great tale about the early years of the oil industry.
Elizabeth Taylor, Rock Hudson, James Dean starred.

Many a fortune was won and lost in those wild-catting days.


64 posted on 03/09/2022 2:11:38 PM PST by miserare ( Respect for life--life of all kinds-- is the first principle of civilization.~~A. Schweitzer.)
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To: miserare; Osage Orange
I haven't watched Giant in ages. Yep, great movie for sure. Made James Dean famous.

Another old oil patch movie is Tulsa, made in 1949. Very realistic scripting of the 1920s Oklahoma oil patch. For many years, it was a reasonably accurate saying that the old oil money was in Tulsa and the new money in Houston.

In the Tulsa movie, one of my uncles had 5 seconds of fame as an extra in the oil field fire scene running for his life. Lol…. Tom was going to college on the GI Bill at the time. WWII vet in the 45th Division. Sicily, Salerno, Anzio, North Italy, South France, Germany.

65 posted on 03/09/2022 4:38:01 PM PST by Hootowl99
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To: Hootowl99
Old movie...about the forming of the FBI....James Steward was in ....,All about the Osage,,,Fairfax and Pawhuska, OK

Lot of stuff happened around here...then.

Just filmed a movie here...a few months ago...Filmed some of it...across the street from my office.

66 posted on 03/09/2022 5:27:32 PM PST by Osage Orange (1961 VW Two Door Truck)
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To: Osage Orange

I’ll have to look that one up.

I have great-grands who live near Tulsa.

They have Osage blood, along with Irish, Scotch, German, and Mexican.


67 posted on 03/10/2022 6:18:17 PM PST by miserare ( Respect for life--life of all kinds-- is the first principle of civilization.~~A. Schweitzer.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Time for them to pull the Boris and Natasha scenes from Bullwinkle cartoons.


68 posted on 03/10/2022 6:23:44 PM PST by Rebelbase
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Will they ban the Royal Moscow Ballet, and the Bolshoi?

They’ve already cancelled Anna Netrobko, one of the world’s best sopranos.


69 posted on 03/10/2022 6:55:35 PM PST by miserare ( Respect for life--life of all kinds-- is the first principle of civilization.~~A. Schweitzer.)
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To: miserare

I guess I will never be an electric car owner.

70 posted on 03/12/2022 1:16:52 PM PST by TheConservativeTejano (The Business of America is Business)
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To: miserare

Partner, Is $20,000 to replace the battery pack and installation of battery pack in the car.

Someone told me it costs $32,000.00 to replace the battery pack.

71 posted on 03/20/2022 7:18:58 PM PDT by TheConservativeTejano (The Business of America is Business)
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To: miserare

The $32,000.00 is the cost of the labor to install the battery pack and the cost of the battery pack.

72 posted on 03/20/2022 7:21:24 PM PDT by TheConservativeTejano (The Business of America is Business)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

Big Oil was AWOL in 2020 campaign. They are free to enjoy themselves some Brandon now. No sympathy here.


73 posted on 03/20/2022 7:21:49 PM PDT by lodi90
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To: TheConservativeTejano

Yes. My son bought one recently and saved a bundle by installing it himself. He is an engineer.


74 posted on 03/20/2022 8:37:32 PM PDT by miserare ( Respect for life--life of all kinds-- is the first principle of civilization.~~A. Schweitzer.)
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To: miserare

So u are saying that the total cost is $20,000.00 which includes buying the battery pack and the installation costs.

If he installed the battery pack himself he saved about $12,000.00 is what you are saying.

The cost of buying a battery pack and installing yourself would be around $32,000.00 is what I was told.

I am not trying to be a smarty pants but a lot of folks who do not have the time or the smarts to install a battery pack are saying why do I buy the electric car since a lot of folks do not have that money saved up???

75 posted on 03/21/2022 6:41:10 PM PDT by TheConservativeTejano (The Business of America is Business)
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To: TheConservativeTejano

EV’s are not for poor people.Personally, I would rather go back to a horse and buggy.

At least I would have free manure for the garden.


76 posted on 03/21/2022 7:20:06 PM PDT by miserare ( Respect for life--life of all kinds-- is the first principle of civilization.~~A. Schweitzer.)
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To: miserare

EV will not get off the ground with those types of prices for the EV.

A lot of folks in this country (middle class and maybe the upper middle class) can not afford these costs of the EV.

The gasoline car is still going to be supreme until someone invents a cheaper battery for the EV.

It will never happen abolishing the gasoline car and other gasoline vehicles.

77 posted on 03/23/2022 6:56:58 AM PDT by TheConservativeTejano (The Business of America is Business)
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