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Putin's night of shame: Russia's advance slows even further as 'demoralised' troops suffer heavy losses, Kyiv dismisses farcical new 'humanitarian corridor' offer after buses were ATTACKED, and CHILDREN are killed in latest air strikes
Daily Mail ^ | Published: 02:29 EST, 8 March 2022 | Updated: 03:32 EST, 8 March 2022 | Chris Pleasance

Posted on 03/08/2022 12:56:38 AM PST by Zhang Fei

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To: corlorde

Putin bet on a quick fold, cut and run, and horribly miscalculated. That’s what happens when you believe your own BS and surround yourself with yes men.


21 posted on 03/08/2022 2:56:45 AM PST by BiglyCommentary
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To: jughandle

9-13K killed is pure speculation. But given the number of vehicles detroyed plus admitted losses of senior officers its perfectly plausible to say they’ve had 9-13K casualties (killed+wounded).


22 posted on 03/08/2022 2:57:37 AM PST by buwaya (EPA)
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To: buwaya

I’ve also been reading reports that Russian Field commanders and a couple of generals, one named Maj. Gen. Vitaly Gerasimov was killed near Kharkiv. It’s probably because Russian communication equipment is shit and officers have to be on the front lines for command and control.


23 posted on 03/08/2022 2:59:14 AM PST by corlorde
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To: corlorde

That is where a good officer is.

No a Rear Echelon M F


24 posted on 03/08/2022 3:18:15 AM PST by Pikachu_Dad ("the media are selling you a line of soap)
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To: Zhang Fei

The casualty numbers are a bit extreme as estimated by each side, but one dynamic seems to be taking shape.. this conflict is settling into a long grind and an insurgency… something Putin hadn’t counted on. The longer this drags on, the more resistance to it at home. Time is not on Putin’s side.


25 posted on 03/08/2022 3:23:22 AM PST by ScottinVA (К черту Путина, к черту Россию)
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To: Zhang Fei

My goodness, what a shrill headline. Sometimes the Daily Fail is right on the money, but quite often, they’re the very embodiment of British yellow journalism.


26 posted on 03/08/2022 3:44:41 AM PST by Kriggerel ("All great truths are hard and bitter, but lies... are sweeter than wild honey" (Ragnar Redbeard))
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To: dp0622
This is the Ukraine version of rusky losses as published in the UK's Daily Mail.

I don't buy it, but I have no clue as to the truth.


27 posted on 03/08/2022 5:39:39 AM PST by USS Alaska (NUKE ALL MOOSELIMB TERRORISTS, NOW.)
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To: USS Alaska

Either way, the modern European battlefield is very deadly. Modern shoulder fired missiles have turned the tables on armor and aircraft.


28 posted on 03/08/2022 5:48:34 AM PST by DownInFlames (P)
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To: Zhang Fei

“Putin appears to be sensitive to potential widespread public opposition in Russia, and claims he’s not using draftees for the operation. You gotta wonder why it seems to be bogging down.”

They are mostly draftees, who were forced to sign a contract before the invasion.

Only one unit involved in the invasion is “professional”, and that’s the elite 4th Guards “Kantemirovites” Tank Division.

They’re allegedly, the best trained, best equipped, hand picked, politically reliable, professional soldiers (along with their sister unit 2nd Taman Guards Motorized Rifle Division), and it speaks volumes as to the true state of the Russian military that they’re getting their asses handed to them, and why Putin is full of bluster about going nuclear.


29 posted on 03/08/2022 5:50:51 AM PST by 2CAVTrooper (One Nation, Under Fraud Completely Visible, With Spying and Lying Too All.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

“I dunno about that. I’ve seen videos of long columns just decimated.”

The one thing I can’t understand is Russia launching their invasion when they did.

Russia probably knows more about winter warfare than any other country. Especially in their neck of the woods. They joke that General Winter is their most effective Officer.
They also know about the spring thaw that turns the ground into a pig pen that armor and trucks are useless in, leaving only paved roads useful for troops and logistics. Paved roads that can easily be blocked by determined defenders using anti armor munitions.
Not since Hitler delayed Operation Barbarossa has the world seen a military FUBAR a situation this badly.

Well, after this no one will fear the Russian army. Heck, even France and Italy might feel a little froggy when it comes to Ivan.


30 posted on 03/08/2022 6:00:13 AM PST by oldvirginian (So if a cow doesn’t produce milk, is it a milk dud or an udder failure?)
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To: Zhang Fei

Daily Mail is always good for a laugh.
not surprised that this globalist propaganda is coming from an anti-Trumper.. Sure - only one side has losses. LOL = no its not bogged down. It looks that DPL fell yesterday. Check out yesterdays Danzig mapper.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNI87EXhgV4
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anyone know what music this is.Beethoven or such?


31 posted on 03/08/2022 6:03:51 AM PST by CarolinaReaganFan
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To: Cronos

You forgot to detail what happens to the economic sanctions on Russia.


32 posted on 03/08/2022 6:07:29 AM PST by Chad_the_Impaler
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To: 2CAVTrooper
"Only one unit involved in the invasion is “professional”, and that’s the elite 4th Guards “Kantemirovites” Tank Division." Panzerlied Lyrics Battle Of The Bulge
33 posted on 03/08/2022 6:39:41 AM PST by traderrob6
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Kyiv dismisses farcical new 'humanitarian corridor' offer after buses were ATTACKED, and CHILDREN are killed in latest air strikes

The children who were killed had brought their cute, big-eyed puppies and fuzzy kittens.

These were all bayoneted and cooked for BBQ, along with the children and any babies that were found.

34 posted on 03/08/2022 7:48:23 AM PST by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: Zhang Fei
I wouldn't be the least surprised if Russian commanders and local Ukrainian forces are working out deals, paying bribes where by the Russians either high tail it out of the area, no harm no foul or suffer for it.

I can't imagine these young Russians wanting to die for an ex-KGB thug like Putin.

Don't they have grandparents and great-grandparents who suffered under the terror of the KGB?

I don't care one way or another. Not our circus, not our monkeys but I really don't think the Russian military's heart is in this.

35 posted on 03/08/2022 9:10:53 AM PST by jmacusa (America. Founded by geniuses. Now governed by idiots. )
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To: Zhang Fei

The Mail has been slavishly reporting every piece of Ukrainian propaganda from the beginning.

Too late to change at this point I guess.


36 posted on 03/08/2022 10:35:50 AM PST by absalom01 (You should do your duty in all things. You cannot do more, and you should never wish to do less.)
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To: absalom01

[The Mail has been slavishly reporting every piece of Ukrainian propaganda from the beginning.

Too late to change at this point I guess.]


It’s been reporting propaganda from both sides, including casualty numbers from the Russians. They claim they lost 500 men killed in 7 days. We lost 174 men over 6 weeks during Iraqi Freedom. They’re not off to a good start, even if they’re not bogged down.

Assuming official Russian casualties are true - 500 in 1 week - 500 is 1/2 the average Russian KIA in Afghanistan for an entire year. I suspect Putin is going to run into serious problems taking casualty numbers at ~25x its reported Afghan War rate per week with half the Russian population that it had during the Afghan campaign. All those single son families are gonna be screaming bloody murder.

When you compare Afghanistan to Vietnam, it’s remarkable how much less punishment in body count terms the Russians were able to take before hitting their uncle point. The official Russian KIA number in Afghanistan was 13,000 over about 10 years, which is roughly 1/5 the US number in Vietnam. When you think about the coercive powers of the totalitarian Soviet state vs the anything goes milieu of 60’s and 70’s America - it’s amazing the US hung in there so long.


37 posted on 03/08/2022 10:44:25 AM PST by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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