You’re not too bright are you? None of what you say has any relevance to the West or the USA. Ukraine is an existential struggle yes - but that’s completely unimportant to anyone but themselves. We have no interest or beef in it. That’s the point. Why are you so passionate about it ?
Secondly, the fact that we shouldn’t be fighting Russia doesn’t make anyone an “apologist for Putin.” No one is apologizing or justifying his actions. We don’t like them- but that doesn’t follow we should fight them. Just saying we shouldn’t be fighting Russia. Nuclear powers don’t fight directly, old Cold War rule. Things have a way of escalating and there goes the end of MAD. Putie nukies could ruin your whole day. And lead to complete extermination of the Ukrainians you love so much for no apparent reason. You realize you’re leading them down the path of mass death right?
You’re not too bright are you? None of what you say has any relevance to the West or the USA. Ukraine is an existential struggle yes - but that’s completely unimportant to anyone but themselves.
***We had enough interest to give assurances for their borders and sovereignty in 1994. They even gave up nukes for those guarantees but guys like you wanna sell them down the river. Since the original nuke agreement is null and void, that means they can pursue nukes, with their nukular knowledge and access to fissionable materials and with them being in [what you acknowledge] is an existential threat to their existence. Their capability to go nuclear is the total opposite of “completely unimportant to anyone but themselves. “
We have no interest or beef in it.
***We had enough interest and beef in it to give assurances in that agreement.
That’s the point. Why are you so passionate about it ?
***Because people like you are so stupid and can’t see the direct path to nuclear war you are generating by your pantywaist pacifism, just like what happened in 1938 appeasement of Hitler.
Secondly, the fact that we shouldn’t be fighting Russia
***That is not a fact. It is simply an assertion. You guys can’t tell your facts from your own bloviated assertions.
doesn’t make anyone an “apologist for Putin.”
***Sure it does. It props up his approach and desires.
No one is apologizing or justifying his actions.
***You haven’t been reading FR lately. Plenty of Putinist apologising and justifying goin’ on.
We don’t like them- but that doesn’t follow we should fight them.
***We gave them assurances of sovereignty and borders in 1994. That means we shoudl fight against their invader, or at least give the most aggressive of assistance up to and including nuclear, since they gave up their nukes and this wouldn’t be happening if they had kept their nukes.
Just saying we shouldn’t be fighting Russia.
***There’s plenty of Putin apologizing goin’ on.
Nuclear powers don’t fight directly, old Cold War rule.
***Then Russia should never have invaded Ukraine. The Budapest Agreement was in place.
Things have a way of escalating and there goes the end of MAD.
***Then Russia should not have invaded Ukraine. Gigantic duhh factor.
Putie nukies could ruin your whole day.
***And Putie nukies could be coming your way due to your aggressive appeasement generating the nuke solution for the Ukes. It is ONLY happening because of Putinist pukes like you.
And lead to complete extermination of the Ukrainians you love so much for no apparent reason.
***They’re in an existential struggle right now. You’d start talking differently if the Ukes turned it into an existential struggle for Russia with just 2 nukes.
You realize you’re leading them down the path of mass death right?
***I’m saying that to YOU.