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I agree with that, but people here on FR are just trying to
make sense of it all.

We have conflicting background that allows them to come to
different conclusions.

Some see the One Word Order end of things and can’t get
behind the Ukraine’s determination not to be taken over.
They then think Putin is actually a savior of the West on
those terms.

I’m not so damning of the Ukraine. The people there seem
to back their president. They back their nation.

We can also point to people in Russia who aren’t buying
this at all.

I understand you. I also understand others.

I come down closer to your side.