Posted on 03/04/2022 3:28:09 AM PST by Kaslin
Across the entire political spectrum, America and the West generally have swallowed the “Putin is Hitler” bait even more completely than the covid bait. Western governments, politicians and grossly ignorant celebrities are now deliberately engendering and inflaming intense hatred of anything and anyone Russian.
This attitude toward a nuclear armed nation, whose political and military leaders, within the memory of living man, experienced Nazi Germany’s war of annihilation against them, is foolhardy in the extreme. It is not only productive of immense danger to the entire planet, it is unjustified when the unfolding Ukraine tragedy is viewed in light of pertinent recent history.
Without a doubt Putin is a ruthless dictator whose invasion of Ukraine is to be condemned. The destruction and carnage of World War II should have settled once and for all that the horror of modern weaponry has rendered war obsolete as an arbiter of either national interest or national borders.
Agitprop tweeted by Ukraine
That said, what world leaders should be striving for now is a prompt end to the Ukraine war, the most perilous for humanity since World War II. World War I, in effect the prelude to World War II, arose out of events that at the time, and still in retrospect, seem far less momentous and threatening than those now unfolding in Ukraine today.
The real danger is that Russia, highly aggrieved by the conduct of the West since the Soviet Union’s demise (whether its aggrievement is justified or not), and increasingly isolated, may be tempted to resort to weapons far more destructive than any yet employed in the unfolding war; or that the West’s military leaders believing that it might do so, might urge preemptive action.
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[Stop The Momentum Pushing Us Toward World War III]
Things could get very interesting. Stuff seems to be happening rapidly.
Me? I call it World War IV. With the Cold War being World War III, though often fought by proxies and agents.
Not that it matters.........
Some really outstanding reading and viewing on this thread.
Stephen Cohen died 2 years ago, Prof. Mearsheimer is still active. His included 2015 lecture is must watching.
Dr Jordan B Peterson
@jordanbpeterson·7h
This is a rough thread.
Quote Tweet Arnaud Bertrand · Feb 28 Most fascinating thing about the Ukraine war is the sheer number of top strategic thinkers who warned for years that it was coming if we continued down the same path.
No-one listened to them and here we are.
Small compilation of these warnings, from Kennan to Kissinger to Mearsheimer.
Show this thread
https://twitter.com/RnaudBertrand/status/1498491107902062592
Hmmm.....
September 2001
September 2008
September 2015 (your pic)
September 2022?
Is there a 7 year pattern? I certainly hope not...
Well, let’s see where we are come September of this year.
Luckily, we have level-headed leaders of both parties in the USA. /sarc.
Finally, an intelligent assessment of the situation instead of the round the clock insanity spewed by Fox News and the NeoCons.
I like that. It shows that Reagan won World War III and liberated tens of millions in Eastern Europe.
Unfortunately, it is out of our hands. Biden and the WEF will do what they want and US interests, EU interests and Ukraine’s interests are not important.
If they want a war so they can reorganize the West into a single socialist state, then this is the time for them to make it happen.
Ok then..kill Putin.
Forget Putin. The American Deep State is going to get us ALL killed. One way or another.
There is debate whether these assurances were formal, or were given at all. But that debate is beside the point: Any western diplomat would have known that in 1991, and for the then near future, any eastward expansion of NATO would be somewhere between highly unwelcome and overtly threatening to Russia. Given Russia’s history, this psychology was and remains understandable.
In view of this reality, in the decades after 1991, if the West had been genuinely desirous of peacefully integrating Russia into Europe, it would have avoided expanding the NATO alliance toward Russia’s borders. A period of undisputable independence for the former eastern European satellites and westernmost ex-Soviet republics, accompanied by their balanced relations with east and west, would have been the prudent course for all concerned.
There are many assumptions in the above paragraphs. The most egregious is that NATO is any kind of threat to Russia. NATO reduced its forces; the US tremendously reduced its forces in Europe; NATO became a shell of its former self. NATO was always a reaction to an expansionist Soviet Union.
The reasons the former East Block countries joined NATO is very simple, and easily understandable; they feared Russian aggression and dominance.
How is Ukraine's desire to integrate with the West a threat to Russia? It isn't. It is a threat to Russia being able to keep itself as an authoritarian dictatorship in a failed economic system.
That is what Putin fears. Russia could have pushed to integrate more toward capitalism, as China did. Instead they remain a basket case, living on selling oil.
Does the current Russian government (Putin) see things differently? Yes.
But who is the real aggressor here? NATO has not conquered the countries which have joined NATO. They joined because of fear of Russia.
So Russia, one of the most powerful nuclear armed nations in the world, is worried about an invasion by NATO?
I do not find it difficult to see Putin's side.
He took Georgia. Nothing happened.
He took Crimea. Nothing happened.
Then, at a time of historical weakness in the West, he is attempting to take Ukraine; but the Ukrainians decided they did not want a repeat of Russians killing off 5 million Ukrainians, as happened in the 1930s.
All true. But our rulers don’t care and the masses, as demonstrated by the Scamdemic, are easily led.
We are this very minute looking at the greatest evil in the world today.
No, I’m not talking about Russia/Putin, I am referring to the Clinton/Obama/Biden axis of evil.
All the worlds suffering and pain can be laid on the feet of those three filthy, dirty, scumbags. Their policies during the last 28 years (excluding the Trump years) lead to where we are today.
When those three are removed from world politics (along with their financiers and puppet masters) then the world can heal but not until there is more great destruction and loss of life.
So we have people in positions of power like Lindsay Graham calling for the assassination of Russia’s leader; GW Bush, who never said a word of criticism in eight years of Obama and the horrible year of Biden, getting acclaim despite his actions as a war criminal; Adam Kinzinger calling for a no-fly zone over Ukraine; and others in government shouting “war, war, war”. This reminds me of the Gulf of Tonkin “incident” and the build-up to war with Iraq with Colin Powell’s speech to the UN, replete with lies and misinformation, with the war hysteria stirred by Hollywood and the media. It starts this way, crazed neocons with a bloodlust demanding that the sons and daughters of the people they hate be sent to their needless wars, then when the wars turn sour on the strategy they pushed, they turn on the soldiers and their families. Stop it NOW.
Thank you for the link
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