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To: GunRunner

I don’t want war - and neither do the Ukrainian or Russian people.

This war began for one reason, and only one reason: the psychotic “empire” fantasy of one man - Vladimir Putin.


72 posted on 03/04/2022 8:55:26 PM PST by JME_FAN
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To: JME_FAN
One reason. Pfft.

I guess 25 years of NATO expansion had nothing to do with it. Or abandoning post Cold War commitments, manipulating Ukrainian elections and the Deep State buying off their politicians.

I assume Victoria Nuland and company literally picking winners in Ukraine’s “elections”, incessantly broadcasting Russia Hoax propaganda for 5 years had nothing to do with it.

Or US Senators going to Ukraine in 2017 and saying “Your fight is our fight!” and “Now we’re going on the OFFENSE against Russia! (This is all on video by the way).

The Deep State had been provoking this war for 15 years. And they got it.

Blaming 25 years of corrupt diplomacy, broken promises and treaties, endless saber rattling, and mainstream media lies on “one man” is the excuse of a childish mind; the end result of generations brought up on Star Wars and Marvel movies.

73 posted on 03/04/2022 10:20:36 PM PST by GunRunner
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You and Grahamnesty are reading the same comic books:

“Your fight is our fight. 2017 will be the year of offense. All of us (Klobuchar, McCain, and Grahamnesty) will go back to Washington, and we will push the case against Russia. Enough of Russian aggression. It is time for them to pay a heavier price.” —Senator Lindsey Graham in Ukraine December 2016

This war happened because our diplomatic and political class is run by morons and saber rattling buffoons, who clearly have been provoking an invasion for decades, and turned the heat up after Trump won in order to spite him. Whereas Trump pushed engagement and deescalation with Russia, and wasn’t stupid enough to constantly provoke a country with 6,000 nuclear weapons.

Enough if it. I reject the war propaganda that says that NATO and the US’s poor leadership are blameless, along with the canard that Ukraine is standing for “democracy”. Please.

We chose their leaders; there are call recordings between Nuland and the US Ambassador in Kiev literally picking their leaders on the phone. Ukraine sought to buy US influence using the Vice President’s son. A Ukrainian operative in our own military helped jumpstart impeachment proceedings against Trump when Trump started calling Ukraine out on their corruption.

How can you people not see this, after 5 years of non-stop propaganda, where our own President was constantly called a Putin sellout. You’re ready to just parrot the Deep State line, point at Putin and say “Uh, he did it.”

Nope, we’re going to ignore all that, and put your Ukrainian flag in your Instagram profile, and pray for Ukraine, defenders of democracy. Let’s not learn anything.

US Senators Speak to Ukrainian Troops

74 posted on 03/04/2022 10:48:31 PM PST by GunRunner
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