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To: Leaning Right
But then he ordered an unprovoked invasion of a sovereign country.

In your view, it's unprovoked.

Others disagree. Considering the slime involved in Ukraine [who provoke US conservatives all the time in America and Canada], I would lean towards provocation.

Heavily.

14 posted on 02/28/2022 9:05:04 AM PST by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: kiryandil

Mistake, I thought we were talking about Vindman!

Oh yeah, (Griffin) is a gay radical, too

Hate filled


20 posted on 02/28/2022 9:15:21 AM PST by AnthonySoprano (And the Wuhan Flu came from a food market and Joe Biden comes from the black community )
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To: kiryandil

You do make a fair point. The media is now portraying Ukraine as some sort of perfect country that is being bullied for no reason at all.

That is, of course, far from the truth. But I still hold to my previous comments. If you’re going to kill people and break things, you’d better have a damn good reason. In my opinion, that reason is absent here.

By the way, we saw the exact same thing in regards to Bush II and Iraq. In my opinion, Putin is now a war criminal. But so is George W. Bush.


21 posted on 02/28/2022 9:17:24 AM PST by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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To: kiryandil

In your view, it’s unprovoked. Others disagree.
***Allrightie, then. How do we as a conservative site get down to the right and proper definition of “properly provoked” so much as to get invaded?

I personally believe the Taliban “properly provoked” an invasion of Afghanistan when they trained 19 hijackers to fly airplanes into buildings killing 3000 innocent Americans.

Were the Russians “properly provoked” into invading Afghanistan themselves? They tried to annex it as well, unsuccessfully.

I’m vacillating on Reagan’s invasion of Granada. For all his whoopin’, hollerin’ and peacockin’, that was his only military engagement so it was a great demonstration of deterrence if nothing else.

I think Britain was properly provoked into defending the Falklands, and Argentina was NOT properly provoked into invading them.

I think we were properly provoked into Gulf War 1, but not Gulf War 2. We shoulda cleaned out that country and set up emBASEeees.

I vacillate about whether we were properly provoked into invading Panama and getting Noriega. We wouldn’t even have had to if we had kept that marvelous example of a nice, long emBASEeee known as the Panama Canal.

We were properly provoked into landing at Inchon and fighting off the commies at Korea.

We were NOT properly provoked at the Gulf of Tonkin incident. But we shoulda helped out the south against that obvious invasion from the north.

We could look at Israel and whether they were properly provoked into initiating the 1967 war. I’m heavily biased in their favor.


37 posted on 02/28/2022 10:00:58 AM PST by Kevmo (I’m immune from Covid since I don’t watch TV.🤗)
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