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Did a Quickly Deleted Essay in Russian Media Explain What Vladimir Putin Wants Russia to Gain From the Ukraine Invasion?
Red State ^ | 2/27/22 | Strieff

Posted on 02/28/2022 8:20:47 AM PST by datura

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To: WWG1WWA

Forgot to add, watch the live cams. The MSM says one thing, the live cams tell another. They’re lying.


101 posted on 03/01/2022 1:23:49 AM PST by WWG1WWA (Beware the fury of a patient man. - John Dryden )
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To: WWG1WWA; DiogenesLamp

Ping to post 100.


102 posted on 03/01/2022 1:45:04 AM PST by WWG1WWA (Beware the fury of a patient man. - John Dryden )
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To: WWG1WWA

You think Ukraine has more child trafficking than Russia?!!! And good guy Putin is going to wipe it out? You have lost your mind. But the Russian invasion is killing and maiming plenty of children. You have zero understanding of what is motivating patriotic Ukrainians and zero understanding of Putin’s long standing criminal thug behavior.


103 posted on 03/01/2022 2:10:26 AM PST by Monterrosa-24 ( "...To the barricades...")
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To: Monterrosa-24

Bear in mind that Putin hates child traffickers. That’s why he won’t allow adoption of their children.


104 posted on 03/01/2022 2:19:49 AM PST by WWG1WWA (Beware the fury of a patient man. - John Dryden )
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To: Widget Jr
To: datura Does Ukraine have a right to national sovereignty, and do they have the right to refuse to be forced to be part of a new Czarist empire under Putin?

Our 'rights' are listed in a founding document.

Many politicians and others have tried to add various 'rights' to our national ethic and they've also tried to ignore the ones listed.

When Man claims a 'right' it is really a 'privilege' - given or taken away at will.

105 posted on 03/01/2022 4:13:20 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: datura

Anyone on the right who thinks Putin is our most dangerous enemy are sadly out of touch.


106 posted on 03/01/2022 4:18:01 AM PST by meadsjn (, )
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To: meadsjn

Right on!!!

We ALL know it’s climate change!!


107 posted on 03/01/2022 5:23:13 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: indthkr

I don’t do FB either. My wife does I just copied address. Don’t even know who is speaking


108 posted on 03/01/2022 7:01:56 AM PST by ProudVet97
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To: WWG1WWA

Thank you for this insightful reply!


109 posted on 03/01/2022 8:41:33 AM PST by saintgermaine (Saintgermain the time traveler)
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To: ctdonath2
It’s a valid question.

No, it's not.

It's actually a demand that I read and listen to propaganda I have the right to ignore

Kinda like what Occupy Wall Street, BLM and Antifa Terrorists do to ordinary Americans when they obstruct their movements on public streets, you will listen to their propaganda and agree, or they will block your movement until you do.

You should have figured that out.

110 posted on 03/01/2022 10:30:48 AM PST by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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To: datura

” an invasion that is mysteriously rationalized by an amazing number of people on the right who were apoplectic over Trudeau’s brutality with the Freedom Convoy, “

Not mysterious. The common thread is that people are coming to despise leaders in DC, Brussels, Ottawa, etc. We correctly blame them for most of the evil and hardship in the world at the moment.
Empowering every camel moslem camel jockey they can? Check.
Enriching China and trying to implement their system here? Check.
Finding every way possible to humiliate and chest bump Russia? Check.

We are beginning to enjoy or at least understand when anyone shoves back against our enlightened western tyrants.


111 posted on 03/01/2022 1:07:55 PM PST by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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To: WWG1WWA
Wow!  

When I googled "GASK (State Architectural Construction Inspection in Vinnytsia oblast)" from the text on one of your .pdfs, this is the first response that I clicked on:

List of Ukrainian people's demands to international community
It seems written in the language of an apparatchik of the central committee.
112 posted on 03/01/2022 1:35:21 PM PST by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken)
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To: datura

Your FReepiversary is only six month away.


113 posted on 03/01/2022 2:12:42 PM PST by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken)
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To: Meet the New Boss
That the Ukrainians and not Putin are the ones constantly called fascists and Nazis is just brazen deceitfulness and abuse of language, like when a black racist on MSNBC sputters that only white people can be racist.

So, I guess it's just coincidence that most of the guards at the NAZI Death Camps were Ukrainian?

114 posted on 03/01/2022 2:36:46 PM PST by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken)
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To: rightwingcrazy

More along the lines of old czarist schema holding out it’s nationalist structure vs. the NWO commercialism that nearly every other modern country has fallen into.

Putin fights the inevitable assimilation, with archaic Quixotian rhetoric. He’s old, probably sick, and his time is fading quickly away. This is likely his last hurrah.


115 posted on 03/01/2022 3:36:42 PM PST by larrytown (A Cadet will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do. Then they graduate...)
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To: MinorityRepublican

He made it clear that the worst geopolitical disaster occurred in 1991, NOT 1917. And besides, if he TRULY wanted to bring back the historical glory of the Russian Empire, don’t you think he would have done stuff like, I don’t know, ban the Communist Party from even EXISTING in the USSR, ban Communist groups, including the Worldwide Youth Festival, that exist outside Russia from ever visiting, bulldoze Lenin’s Mausoleum, make sure his corpse is either buried in an unmarked plot or, ideally, is a permanent ornament from a nearby street post, and tear down Karl Marx’s statue, and then make sure Russia exclusively thinks and talks about the glories of the Russian Empire, and that the USSR, if it’s EVER talked about at all, is only with scorn? I know if it were ME in his position, those would all be things I’d make SURE to do to ensure a Russian Empire revival, NOT the stuff Putin is pulling.

And just as an FYI, anti-globalist guys such as Diana West, Ion Mihai Pacepa, JR Nyquist, and Trevor Loudon among others more than made it clear that Putin is still a Communist. Russia still isn’t free from Communism.

And Ukraine being corrupt is NO excuse to back a Communist like Putin. South Vietnam was also labeled as the most corrupt country in existence once upon a time. Want to know what happened the second we stopped supporting it? It went Communist, and ultimately led to the events of the Cambodian Massacre among others.


116 posted on 03/02/2022 8:19:46 PM PST by otness_e
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To: higgmeister

You ARE aware that Stalin literally tried to rehash Hitler’s Death Camps with his Doctor’s Plot, right?


117 posted on 03/02/2022 8:35:44 PM PST by otness_e
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To: otness_e
I am only aware that Stalin died and the proposal was ignored.

My next door neighbors were Refuseniks that finally were allowed to leave Russia just before the Soviet Union fell.

Marat passed away several months ago and Galina is by herself now.   They both became very proud US citizens and their son got a degree from Harvard and is now in med school at Georgetown, after working for several years at a non-profit.

So now we agree that neither Russia nor Ukraine is worth our concern as far as this fighting is help in any way.   Especially the Ukraine with all the intrigue, bribes and collusion with our prominent Democrat and RINO leadership through their sons.

118 posted on 03/02/2022 10:56:59 PM PST by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken)
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To: higgmeister

And they are getting those demands met. SMH


119 posted on 03/03/2022 5:15:01 AM PST by WWG1WWA (Beware the fury of a patient man. - John Dryden )
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To: higgmeister

I may not care one bit for the Ukraine, but I ALSO realize it’s nonetheless VERY stupid to ignore the fighting. Assuming Putin wins, then given Putin’s making not so secret that he’ll be bringing back Communism to the USSR, that means we’ll have another Cold War on our hands. The only way to truly get rid of Communism besides Fatima is to make sure Putin doesn’t win.

Preventing Communism from gaining any more strength is the ONLY reason why I’d even consider supporting Ukraine in the loosest sense. If you ask me, we should have gone all Nuremberg on Russia and ALL the Communist Countries after the Cold War ended. Do the same thing we did to Nazi Germany. Thanks to stupidly assuming the USSR’s “collapse” meant Communism was discredited and not doing anything more to kill it, we just gave it time to regroup. And now thanks to Ayers and his ilk, it’s poisoned the educational water supply.

And don’t think going isolationist will work this time around. Let me point out that our going isolationist during the 1930s not only helped the Nazis gain power, but also had us coming VERY close to becoming a Soviet proxy state thanks to FDR.


120 posted on 03/03/2022 7:19:33 AM PST by otness_e
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