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Here is a list of Russian military losses I found this morning. Is this heavy losses?

Euromaidan Press@EuromaidanPress · 5hTotal estimated Russian losses, updated 06:00 EET Feb.28:
⚪️Personnel: ~5,300
⚪️Aircraft: 29
⚪️Helicopters: 29
⚪️Tanks: 191
⚪️AFV: 816
⚪️Artillery pieces: 74
⚪️SAM Buk: 1
⚪️MLRS: 21
⚪️Transport vehicles: 291
⚪️Rail tank cars: 60
⚪️UAV: 3
⚪️Ships/boats: 2
⚪️Air defense means: 5


40 posted on 02/28/2022 5:43:50 AM PST by gleeaikin (, vitamins,Question authority!)
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To: gleeaikin

Fairly heavy losses for such a short time frame................


41 posted on 02/28/2022 5:45:35 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: gleeaikin

“Here is a list of Russian military losses I found this morning. Is this heavy losses?”

Could be, but these aren’t anything official. I’d consider any numbers coming out of the conflict as propaganda, akin to the exaggerated “kill ratio/count” the Pentagon would offer up on a regular basis during Vietnam.


43 posted on 02/28/2022 5:50:03 AM PST by LouieFisk
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To: gleeaikin
Here is a list of Russian military losses I found this morning. Is this heavy losses? Personnel: ~5,300

Russians haven't seriously assaulted Kharkiv or Kyiv. Its all relative. In the Iraq War we lost 4,500 servicemen. We obviously care more for individual loses.

44 posted on 02/28/2022 5:50:03 AM PST by tlozo
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To: gleeaikin

I hate to say it, but you can’t regard it as factual. Both sides are making up a fair amount of false stories. Even these interviews with captured Russian soldiers...half of those might be totally faked-up.


46 posted on 02/28/2022 5:57:12 AM PST by pepsionice
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To: gleeaikin
Euromaidan Press@EuromaidanPress · 5hTotal estimated Russian losses, updated 06:00 EET Feb.28: ⚪️Personnel: ~5,300

This is from a Ukrainian news service. Their first "data" was 3500, two days ago out of the blue, and they have been incrementing it every day. I don't trust it one bit. Where are all these bodies?

48 posted on 02/28/2022 6:02:39 AM PST by montag813
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To: gleeaikin

[Here is a list of Russian military losses I found this morning. Is this heavy losses?

Euromaidan Press@EuromaidanPress · 5hTotal estimated Russian losses, updated 06:00 EET Feb.28:
⚪️Personnel: ~5,300
⚪️Aircraft: 29
⚪️Helicopters: 29
⚪️Tanks: 191
⚪️AFV: 816
⚪️Artillery pieces: 74
⚪️SAM Buk: 1
⚪️MLRS: 21
⚪️Transport vehicles: 291
⚪️Rail tank cars: 60
⚪️UAV: 3
⚪️Ships/boats: 2
⚪️Air defense means: 5]


My guess is they’ve inflicted casualties, but not the numbers cited. Churchill once said “In wartime, truth is so precious that she should always be attended by a bodyguard of lies.”

Morale is a fragile thing. If a side thinks it’s about to lose, even if it is, in reality, about to win, all heart will go out of its fighters, and its formations will start to crumble. No one wants to be the last to die for a losing cause.

In Vietnam, post-war interviews indicate that the North Vietnamese leadership was about to give up the fight because it had just taken too many casualties. Leaders can get war weary. But the rank and file can also be infected. Near the end of WWI, Germany was close to starvation and German soldiers were surrendering in droves without much of a fight. At home, Marxist revolution was in the air, much as Lenin had staged Red October in Moscow less than a year earlier. No one knows how close the North Vietnamese public was to cracking, with perhaps the entire regime being killed and all-out civil war ensuing, but the fact is even a regime with what looked like a winning hand in South Vietnam was teetering. So in Ukraine, it is necessary, on both sides, to project an image of steady progress, so the men risking their lives don’t lose heart and decide they are better off leaving the field of battle and finding jobs in the EU.


50 posted on 02/28/2022 9:20:34 AM PST by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: gleeaikin

Ukrainian propaganda numbers


52 posted on 02/28/2022 11:59:54 AM PST by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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