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Major hurdle cleared in plan to demolish 4 California dams
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | Feb. 25, 2022 | GILLIAN FLACCUS

Posted on 02/26/2022 11:29:21 AM PST by artichokegrower

Federal regulators on Friday issued a draft environmental impact statement saying there were significant benefits to a plan to demolish four massive dams on Northern California’s Klamath River to save imperiled migratory salmon, setting the stage for the largest dam demolition project in U.S. history.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: California
KEYWORDS: dam; klamath
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To: Rebelbase

During Sarah Palin’s term as governor of Alaska MWD proposed capturing water from the Yukon River and sending it south via a massive neoprene and Kevlar pipeline laid on the floor of the Pacific Ocean. Palin was instrumental in killing the scheme.


61 posted on 02/26/2022 3:45:53 PM PST by MercyFlush (DANGER: You are being conditioned to view your freedom as selfish)
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To: HKMk23

You speak of free market forces all while denying the fact that these LA water projects were the result of government power stomping on property rights, literally murdering farmers who opposed the projects, and then using massive government subsidies to build dams, aquaducts, pipelines, and reservoirs.

All so powerful LA real estate interests could reap billions at taxpayer expense.


62 posted on 02/26/2022 3:51:25 PM PST by MercyFlush (DANGER: You are being conditioned to view your freedom as selfish)
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To: OldWarBaby; All
"River flows can get too low without the reserve water, for a fish to swim up or down stream."

Thank you for volunteering practical details that I failed to consider.

So non-elected federal regulators don't necessarily know what they're talking about imo.

"Federal regulators on Friday issued a draft environmental impact statement saying there were significant benefits to a plan to demolish four massive dams on Northern California’s Klamath River to save imperiled migratory salmon [emphasis added], [...]"

And although the dams were probably built with questionable federal funding (correction welcome), I don't see where in the Constitution the states have reasonably constitutionally given the feds the express authority to dictate policy on this issue.

Or are the dams built on land properly constitutionally purchased by the feds?

63 posted on 02/26/2022 3:53:58 PM PST by Amendment10
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To: artichokegrower

Who was it that said “in a flood, the leftists recommend rain?”

Kind of an ironic twist there.


64 posted on 02/26/2022 3:56:25 PM PST by Blue Collar Christian (I'm a nationalist.I'm white.How does that make me racist?)
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To: Stingray51

“I am just asking because in the east where I am, the Indians are not particularly Indian at all except when it comes to asserting special rights like operating casinos.”

Or being admitted to Harvard...


65 posted on 02/26/2022 4:02:26 PM PST by Blue Collar Christian (I'm a nationalist.I'm white.How does that make me racist?)
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To: frithguild

Yah, out of 59 posts, one guy, ONE GUY, proves himself to be a thoughtful, aware, informed, rational citizen. All I can say, kidz, is that we’re going to have a reckoning with Charles Darwin, sooner than 57 of us expect.

>>Apparently, not a single moron who posted on this thread read the article or is aware of this project. These dams have nothing to do with irrigation or drinking water. They are so old that the no longer produce powe with any degree of efficiency. They have turned a bounty into a stagnant pond full of death - by all means a most excellent exercise of the gift of our dominion.


66 posted on 02/26/2022 4:45:31 PM PST by Yollopoliuhqui
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To: Yollopoliuhqui

This is not the FR of old my FRiend. A post of this tone once was an invitation to a flame war with some pretty sharp hombres. Alas, the freepers on this thread are better at chattering and running.


67 posted on 02/26/2022 6:43:33 PM PST by frithguild (The warmth and goodness of Gaia is a nuclear reactor in the Earth's core that burns Thorium)
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To: frithguild

Just a California farmer here. Tear down the old dams don’t build any new dams. Let us all know where your food will come from. Destroy all downstream storage from Klamath Lake and then dry it up. Spend money on cleaning up the reservoirs instead of tearing down the dams.


68 posted on 02/26/2022 7:18:19 PM PST by artichokegrower (I )
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To: artichokegrower

You probably know more about this than do I. The Elwha dam removal projects are the model for the Klamath. But the rivers have little similarity. You have given a sage an common sense approach, except for spending to clean up reseviors. Flowing rivers are pretty much self cleaning systems. They clean without expenditures. The undaming of the Elwha proved that concept. The Klamath reseviors behind the dams basically serve no purpose, save for the income received by those paid for the sisyphean task to clean them. The fish will return when the dams go and on balance everyone will be richer for it. Just my $.02.


69 posted on 02/26/2022 7:52:53 PM PST by frithguild (The warmth and goodness of Gaia is a nuclear reactor in the Earth's core that burns Thorium)
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To: MercyFlush

I denied nothing.
I merely reject the idea that a “solution” that is every bit as bad as the disease qualifies as Conservative.


70 posted on 02/27/2022 1:03:26 AM PST by HKMk23 (https://youtu.be/LTseTg48568)
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To: HKMk23

Honoring treaty obligations is far more important than keeping the grass green in LA.


71 posted on 02/27/2022 8:16:40 AM PST by MercyFlush (DANGER: You are being conditioned to view your freedom as selfish)
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To: frithguild

It’s always in what they DON’T say; nothing in that about whether or not the dams store DRINKING water.


72 posted on 02/28/2022 1:35:24 AM PST by HKMk23 (https://youtu.be/LTseTg48568)
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To: HKMk23

The reseviors behind the dams considered for removal are not used for drinking water.


73 posted on 02/28/2022 4:59:09 AM PST by frithguild (The warmth and goodness of Gaia is a nuclear reactor in the Earth's core that burns Thorium)
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