Posted on 02/26/2022 11:29:21 AM PST by artichokegrower
Federal regulators on Friday issued a draft environmental impact statement saying there were significant benefits to a plan to demolish four massive dams on Northern California’s Klamath River to save imperiled migratory salmon, setting the stage for the largest dam demolition project in U.S. history.
(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...
Speaking of treaties, I also question if treaties can trump state sovereignty. I wouldn’t be surprised if federal and state liberals are pulling the treaty card for smoke and mirrors.
Our moron, back-bencher congress critter, Mike Simpson, (R?), Idaho, is trying the same stupidity in Oregon and Washington.
The nitwit is trying to gain support for removing 4 dams on the lower Snake and Colombia rivers.
Hopefully, this effort will result in his sorry butt being defeated in the Republican primaries this year.
They can do like Pennsylvania at the Conowingo Dam. They installed fish elevators. Problem is that now the snakeheads can get up river. It’s like opening our border by removing the wall so all the MS-13 can come in. Dams block garbage predatory fish.
“Two fish lifts were installed on the east and west sides of the Conowingo Dam decades ago to allow passage of migratory fish such as American shad and river herring. The fish lifts are critical for migratory species restoration and a requirement by the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission.
These fish lifts operate during the spring migration, which is also when snakeheads are known to travel longer distances in the watershed. All snakeheads captured this year were in the western side of the dam.
In 2017, one snakehead was observed passing from the lower Susquehanna River and upstream to Conowingo Pond through the east fish lift. An agreement was established in 2018 between the Conowingo Dam’s owner, Exelon, and the Susquehanna River Anadromous Fish Restoration Cooperative (SRAFRC) to implement voluntary, adaptive best management practices that reduce the spread of northern snakeheads while still allowing migratory fish passage.”
Fish ladders don’t work for all ocean migrating fish and the reasons are complicated.
Bonneville Power has spent Billions, (with a B) trying to improve salmon habitat and fisheries in Idaho and on the Snake and Colombia rivers. The problem, apparently, is salmon make it up the ladders, but the smolt can’t handle the lack of current in the lakes behind the dams when they return to the ocean. Bonneville Power has funded barging fish around the dams and all kinds of very expensive failures.
And accepting that removing some of the dams is the solution is a theory...there is no, zero, nada proof that this will work.
The reality is salmon may become extinct in certain river systems...they are NOT going extinct!
Past dam removal project in Carmel Valley, CA
San Clemente Dam RemovAL & Carmel River RESTORATION
a story of federal, state and local partnerships
that saved a river
In summer of 2015 after years of planning and three years of de-construction, the 95 year-old and 106 foot tall San Clemente Dam was removed on the Carmel River. The San Clemente Dam removal was to date the largest dam removal project in California.
https://www.sanclementedamremoval.org
that was in 2015 now let’s move to 2022
After 26 years, the hammer is finally coming down on the Peninsula’s water use. Will we have enough to avoid water rationing?
AT THE END OF THIS YEAR, THE MONTEREY PENINSULA WILL BE THRUST INTO A NEW WATER REALITY. It will be the first year in at least 140 that residents and businesses will receive most of their water from a source other than the Carmel River. This is not a choice but a reprimand 26 years in the making that will force the Peninsula into an immediate period of water instability unseen since the 1970s.
Actually its to save the a mud-sucking fish - the salmon are incidental - but the major targets are the farms that depend in the water. Has been an on-going battle since 2000 with the farmers on the losing end.
Now the NGOs having forced the farmers of their land will be buying up more of the farms to sell to their members - American Rivers, The Nature Conservancy et al. Major profits for them - homelessness for the farmers and their families
Interesting
How ironic that the northern snakehead is a species of snakehead fish native to China, Russia, North Korea, and South Korea, ranging from the Amur River to Hainan. It has been introduced to other regions, where it is considered invasive.
They get to 33 inches long and destroy the population of native fish. Sounds like China’s biowarfare fish immigration plan!
If the dams remained, power company PacifiCorp would likely have to spend hundreds of millions of dollars to retrofit the structures to comply with today’s environmental laws. As it is, the utility has said the electricity generated by the dams no longer makes up a significant part of its power portfolio.
Apparently, not a single moron who posted on this thread read the article or is aware of this project. These dams have nothing to do with irrigation or drinking water. They are so old that the no longer produce powe with any degree of efficiency. They have turned a bounty into a stagnant pond full of death - by all means a most excellent exercise of the gift of our dominion.
Thanks for reply.
Isn't salmon a major part of food cycle in Alaska?
It may be due to treaties with Native Americans. Unfortunately, nobody has ever brought back a salmon run via hatcheries.....complete waste of money and resources.
This is the crux of the matter, several dams were built in spite of legal obligations to several tribes. Meaning the dams shouldn’t have been there in the first place. Second a healthy salmon fishery is a key part of the food supply. So this is more than just environwackos screwing with property rights.
Sure, we can be every bit as hostile to free market forces as the left is. Demolish entire suburbs. Exile 35 million Californians into other state, so that the remaining population can actually be supported by the water supplied naturally. Turn all of California into a federally regulated land bank, with a federally controlled maximal population, federally controlled tourism, federally controlled agriculture, federally controlled... it never ends.
Yeah, that’s the ticket.
How does LA MWD move water from Alaska to LA?
Yes, major drought and they want to do this. Let’s tear down dams and build 300 billion dollar “bullet trains”. Who cares about water.
Go ahead Commiefornia. When you are experiencing blackouts and dying of thirst just remember, Earth Mother Gaia appreciates your sacrifice!
Where will the ecofreaks get the electric to power their anal vibrators?
It’s not like we don’t know how to get a fish to swim over a dam. When hydro projects were getting started in the NW everybody concerned pooled their efforts and built the hydraulics lab at Washington State university in Pullman, WA. They Modelled and actually ran mini versions of the planned dams. They built every imaginable way to get a fish over a dam. To this day some of those prototypes are still in the boneyard behind the old lab.
But the kicker is that, even tho they figgered it out, everybody, including the Indians, agreed that they had already over fished the salmon such that they were fading anyway. So he money didn’t get spent to build the ladders.
I studied it at the time. Didn’t much like it. But that’s how we got here. Without the dams, in dry years, the fish are dead anyway. River flows can get too low without the reserve water, for a fish to swim up or down stream. That part is happening right now in a number of places.
#6 Just out of curiosity, how native are the natives?
Just enough to qualify for a casino license : )
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