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US officials say 2 Russian transport planes shot down over Ukraine
Times of Israel ^ | Today, 6:38 am, Israeli time | AP

Posted on 02/25/2022 8:57:56 PM PST by Zhang Fei

A second Russian Ilyushin Il-76 military transport plane was shot down near Bila Tserkva, 50 miles (85 kilometers) south of Kyiv, according to two American officials with direct knowledge of conditions on the ground in Ukraine.

(Excerpt) Read more at timesofisrael.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: biden; putin; russia; ukraine
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Surprised Putin did this with so little in the way of prep fires. His men are paying a price. Of course, if he leveled every city in Ukraine with artillery, it's likely that, short of wholesale extermination or deportation, Ukraine would be uncontrollable. And Russia would be a pariah state subject to a complete embargo. European purchases of Russian gas would go to zero.
1 posted on 02/25/2022 8:57:56 PM PST by Zhang Fei
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To: Zhang Fei

I’ll believe it when Russia confirms it. Right now, I haven’t heard the claim from a credible source, yet.


2 posted on 02/25/2022 9:00:27 PM PST by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart, I just don't tell anyone.)
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To: Zhang Fei

3 posted on 02/25/2022 9:00:28 PM PST by marcusmaximus
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To: Zhang Fei

That’s 125 to 225 kills per plane. Not bad.


4 posted on 02/25/2022 9:03:40 PM PST by indthkr
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To: BobL

I saw a video of several Ukraine tanks and like machinery on fire along a highway sent in by people driving ......hard to view because nobody in those could survive.

It is war...and war is so nasty and deadly to many regardless who does the shooting.


5 posted on 02/25/2022 9:03:40 PM PST by caww ( )
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To: marcusmaximus

Hahaha - perfect !


6 posted on 02/25/2022 9:04:29 PM PST by 11th_VA (I can still remember an America where dissent was the highest form of patriotism.)
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To: BobL

Huh? Russia will never confirm anything of the sort. Don’t you realize that? It’s a crime to repot fatalities.


7 posted on 02/25/2022 9:04:42 PM PST by nbenyo
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War is a fog period....with lots of propaganda. Heck there’s people putting up photos of Iraqs war calling it Ukraine.


8 posted on 02/25/2022 9:06:03 PM PST by caww ( )
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To: BobL

Russia denied this a couple of hours ago.

This particular plane was used to transport troops to Vasilkov (SW of Kiev); the ground fighting there is still going on.


9 posted on 02/25/2022 9:06:43 PM PST by mvonfr
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“A second Russian Ilyushin Il-76 military transport plane was shot down near Bila Tserkva, 50 miles (85 kilometers) south of Kyiv, according to two American officials with direct knowledge of conditions on the ground in Ukraine.”

Remember 2 weeks to flatten the curve or “if you like your doctor you can keep your doctor.” Yeah I belive EVERYTHING the news and our government tell me.
The one thing I’ve learned over the last 20 years is I cannot believe media or their puppet masters the govt.


10 posted on 02/25/2022 9:06:56 PM PST by chuckb87
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To: indthkr

Unless they were just pilots to identify targets for Russia.


11 posted on 02/25/2022 9:09:05 PM PST by Sacajaweau ( )
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To: Zhang Fei

Putin:

Winning the Hearts and Minds of Ukrainians to side with Russia vs. working with the EU.


12 posted on 02/25/2022 9:10:42 PM PST by Paladin2
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There should be 50 shot down by now. Putin’s trying to land Paratroops around Kyiv. Big, slow IL-76’s is the only way to do this.

Russian Tank Collumns in nice long lines would be kill zones for A-10’s.

This is proving a Soviet invasion into Germany in the 1980’s would have been Crushing for the Soviets. Picking on disarmed pacifists is about all they can handle.


13 posted on 02/25/2022 9:11:04 PM PST by UNGN
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marcusmaximus has linked to a video clip that claims to show the remains of a Russian column that took a bunch of hits from Ukrainian forces:

https://twitter.com/i/status/1497331456972140546


14 posted on 02/25/2022 9:11:07 PM PST by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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If Russian generals are taking the reckless risk of sending transport planes carrying troops into unsecured combat zones in an era of increasingly sophisticated shoulder held anti aircraft missiles, then they are under incredible pressure from a very worried, stressed out Putin who made the most catastrophic decision of his life.


15 posted on 02/25/2022 9:11:26 PM PST by allendale
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“Huh? Russia will never confirm anything of the sort. Don’t you realize that? It’s a crime to repot fatalities.”

Well, then all I have are two sources known to lie and with a specific desired outcome. I don’t believe the Russian denials either...like I say, I’m open minded on this, perhaps in the past, I might have believed our government, and in the distant past I might have believed our media...but Jan 6th told me all that I need to know about both.


16 posted on 02/25/2022 9:12:02 PM PST by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart, I just don't tell anyone.)
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Daily mail said so. They were the only one’s right about Hunter.

If the Washington Post or NYT said it, you’d have a point.


17 posted on 02/25/2022 9:13:57 PM PST by UNGN
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To: indthkr

You’ll believe anything


18 posted on 02/25/2022 9:14:53 PM PST by Az Joe ("Scratch a Liberal, and a Fascist bleeds")
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To: Zhang Fei

There were reports Ukrainian bayraktar drones purchased from Turkey were devastating entire columns of Russian vehicles, I wonder if that was an instance


19 posted on 02/25/2022 9:15:23 PM PST by Meet the New Boss
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To: caww

https://t.me/new_militarycolumnist/73747

Possible this? This is a highway near Poltava. Mi24 work.

The same thing happened to Uke troops leaving Kherson and likely a few more.

The best Ukrainian troops are on Donbass and received an order to form Army Group Wenck and head to Kiev... I wonder if they realize that highways should be avoided.


20 posted on 02/25/2022 9:19:29 PM PST by mvonfr
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