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Ukrainians Destroy Russian Military Equipment Using Bayraktar (Turkish Drones)
Ground Forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine ^ | 24-FEB-2022 | Ground Forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine

Posted on 02/24/2022 5:15:00 PM PST by SpeedyInTexas

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To: fella
That picture of “ballistic missiles being fired” is incorrect. They are rockets from a MLR, possibly a BM-21.
IIRC the Azerbaijan drones did a number on Armenian Pantsir short range SAMs
21 posted on 02/24/2022 6:48:30 PM PST by bravo whiskey (Annie Savoy : The world is made for people who aren't cursed with self awareness. )
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To: pfflier

PF, you think they can get a few of Russians fighters, bombers, attackers? Or are they neutralized?


22 posted on 02/24/2022 6:52:33 PM PST by samadams2000 (Get your houses in order.)
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To: SpeedyInTexas

I recall going to my ex BIL’s college graduation in 1986. He was in ROTC headed into the Guard. Talking about future warfare he said, “It is going to be automated with robots. The battlefield is getting too lethal for humans.”


23 posted on 02/24/2022 6:57:33 PM PST by Rebelbase
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To: icclearly

Russia is America in those scenarios and they are doing it without air superiority.

THis invasion will likely bring down Putin AND the puppet in Belarus.


24 posted on 02/24/2022 6:59:42 PM PST by UNGN
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To: icclearly

Russia is America in those scenarios and they are doing it without air superiority.

THis invasion will likely bring down Putin AND the puppet in Belarus.


25 posted on 02/24/2022 6:59:42 PM PST by UNGN
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To: SpeedyInTexas

Bkmk


26 posted on 02/24/2022 7:31:25 PM PST by sauropod (Whom the gods would destroy they first make mad. Life is risk, your highness.)
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To: samadams2000

“Anyone believe the Ukrainians are dropping copters and/or destroying tanks?”

The story reports that 3 Russian tanks were destroyed near the border around Kharkiv, using NLAWs. The UK recently provided the Ukraine 2,000 of those man-portable, shoulder fired anti-tank missiles.

The USA provided also recently some number (at least 300) of the similar Javelin anti-tank missiles, as well as some number similarly employed Stinger anti-aircraft missiles. Poland and Baltic Countries were also reported to have recently transferred some additional number of similar weapons. The Ukraine previously had its own stockpile of these types of weapons, prior to these recent arms transfers.

It is hard to miss with those self-guided missiles. Something like a 95% probability of kill, even with inexperienced operators, with only a few minutes of training and an instruction card.

I expect heavy attrition of Russian high value combat platforms like tanks and helicopters. Stinger missiles in Afghanistan are sometimes discussed as the reason the Russians had to withdraw from there.

It’s the second night, and they will need to park their tanks and sleep, as they will every night from now on. A single guy can creep (or drive) up to within one mile of a tank (or stick his head up from his hole, or even fire it out the window of a building), and kill that tank in a matter of less than a minute.

The Russian Military is going to bleed.


27 posted on 02/24/2022 7:34:50 PM PST by BeauBo
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To: samadams2000

MANPADS the taliban kick Russian airpower ass with them.


28 posted on 02/24/2022 7:48:53 PM PST by pfflier
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To: samadams2000

They’re likely getting at least a few of each. Their chopper armor is proof against most MANPADS but sufficiently fast/agile ATGMs can still hit choppers.


29 posted on 02/24/2022 9:43:52 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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The Russians learned their lesson from Afghanistan. Here’s Russian Mi-8 over Syria taking a direct hit from a MANPAD and just shrugging it off. The Russians figured out how to armor their choppers.

https://www.military.com/video/aircraft/helicopters/mi-8-helo-takes-direct-hit/4587449291001


30 posted on 02/24/2022 9:45:44 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: BeauBo

You are forgetting that we are in the age of tanks with active protection systems.


31 posted on 02/24/2022 9:46:20 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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“You are forgetting that we are in the age of tanks with active protection systems.”

Nope.

NLAWs and Javelins are effective against Russian tanks today. They have already started killing them in Ukraine.


32 posted on 02/24/2022 10:18:52 PM PST by BeauBo
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To: UNGN

“THis invasion will likely bring down Putin AND the puppet in Belarus.”

WRONG!


33 posted on 02/25/2022 7:22:52 AM PST by icclearly
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To: BeauBo

Then you need to see this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0l162zutT6M


34 posted on 02/26/2022 4:56:04 AM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Spktyr

In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice, they are not.

The Russian analyst in that video presents theories to doubt Javelin effectiveness, but in practice, they blow up Russian tanks real good.


35 posted on 02/26/2022 5:21:06 AM PST by BeauBo
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To: BeauBo

He’s Serbian, not Russian. He’s been ‘around’ for about a decade.


36 posted on 02/26/2022 6:02:01 AM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: BeauBo

You might also want to look at his other videos - this sort of analysis is common among the popular and growing milsim community online:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9_OYdfF-EI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kn4elQ1WknM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kn4elQ1WknM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6iIMfNRVZo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gtU54NVZ-k

The milsim software is also why you shouldn’t believe everything either side is putting out:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=It-Ad7bCE50
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xjka0IYe4lo


37 posted on 02/26/2022 6:11:16 AM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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