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Rand Paul says Ukraine joining NATO is a 'dumb idea', that would provoke 'pariah nation' of Russia
Fox News ^ | Feb 18 | By Kelly Laco

Posted on 02/18/2022 11:11:45 AM PST by RandFan

Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky., doubled down on his opposition to Ukraine joining the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO), saying it would be an extremely provocative action toward the "pariah nation" of Russia.

Fox News Digital asked the senator on Thursday about his prediction on if or when Russia will invade, to which he responded that no one knows, but that it would be a "great downside" for "pariah nation" Russia.

"I think nobody knows, I'm still hopeful that they won't invade. I think there's a great downside for Russia. They are already somewhat of a pariah nation, but I think they become more excluded from things, and I think there will be significant repercussions from the Europeans who buy a lot of natural gas from them if they invade Ukraine. So I think they need to know this is not going to, they're not going to get just a pass on this."

The senator also doubled down on his criticism of Ukraine joining NATO, saying it would likely provoke and anger Russia and isn't the United States' problem to solve.

"On the other side of the coin, though, I do think it would be good, and it was at least a statement from the Ukrainian prime minister and the German saying there is no imminent call to put Ukraine in NATO. They should have been saying that for a decade or more. It's a dumb idea to put Ukraine in NATO, and it's a very provocative one. I asked the secretary of state the other day, Blinken, I said, ‘What do you think our response would be if Mexico were joining a military alliance with Russia against the United States?’ We would be hopping mad."

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1 posted on 02/18/2022 11:11:45 AM PST by RandFan
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To: RandFan

I can’t disagree with Rand on this one.


2 posted on 02/18/2022 11:14:53 AM PST by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: RandFan
‘What do you think our response would be if Mexico were joining a military alliance with Russia against the United States? We would be hopping mad.'

Who would be "hopping mad" ? No one in Washington.

3 posted on 02/18/2022 11:16:07 AM PST by Steely Tom ([Voter Fraud] == [Civil War])
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To: ought-six

Don’t stop there. So is NATO.

Anyone remember the Mansfield Amendment? A bit early for it’s time but so was Carters call for a withdrawal of troops from Korea.


4 posted on 02/18/2022 11:16:22 AM PST by DIRTYSECRET
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To: RandFan

NATO has become a dumb idea. Germany has become a satellite of Russia because they need their oil. So why does NATO exist to protect nations from Russia when they have already surrendered?


5 posted on 02/18/2022 11:16:42 AM PST by angry elephant (Been with Trump since huge 2016 Washington state rally in May.)
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To: RandFan
Actually, having any former Russian state join NATO is a dumb idea for the same reason. I would honor only the three Baltic States because:

  1. They were conquered by Russia and we never recognized their annexation.
  2. They were grandfathered in.

6 posted on 02/18/2022 11:17:30 AM PST by Vigilanteman (The politicized state destroys aspects of civil society, human kindness and private charity.)
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To: RandFan

Of course it’s a provocation, but that’s what Demented Joe does.


7 posted on 02/18/2022 11:17:40 AM PST by JonPreston (Q: Never have so many, been so wrong, so often)
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While we should not let the EUSSR lead us around by the nose (a true entangling “alliance”), letting Russia make us look weak is also wrong. Of course, Brandon is just fine with doing both . . .


8 posted on 02/18/2022 11:18:31 AM PST by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: angry elephant

Do we want a Russian empire just across the water?

And they have not surrendered; they’ve allied. Former chancellor Schröder helped in that regard and was rewarded with being in charge of Rosneft.


9 posted on 02/18/2022 11:22:00 AM PST by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: angry elephant
The U.N. and many other international groups don't do much good, but NATO has actually helped the U.S. a lot. If you think that Germany has totally surrendered to Russia, watch them set one foot in Poland.

If Germany is going to Russia for oil resources which country has pushed them into their arms? I'll give you one guess.

10 posted on 02/18/2022 11:22:18 AM PST by nickcarraway
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To: RandFan

The Globalists are intending to bring world war to all.


11 posted on 02/18/2022 11:22:46 AM PST by WKUHilltopper
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To: RandFan

Paul….2024


12 posted on 02/18/2022 11:25:04 AM PST by Phoenix8
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To: RandFan

“I’m still hopeful that they won’t invade”

What??? Doesn’t Rand read FR?

Doesn’t he know that the Russian threat narrative is nothing but an elaborate hoax conceived within Brandon’s superbrain to get the “Nazis” running Ukraine to buy more weapons?

The massive Russian forces poised on the Russian and Belarus borders are in fact there to fight climate change, and are peacefully engaged in planting trees.


13 posted on 02/18/2022 11:27:12 AM PST by Meet the New Boss
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To: RandFan

Russia is just evolving from the yoke of communist rule from 1917-1991 and the suffering the communist crimes brought upon the Russian people and the world. Yet the citizens of that “pariah nation” by their courage, immense sacrifice and determination decimated the best of the German army. How many Americans, alive and prospering today, would exist if their fathers and grandfathers had to fight a largely intact German army to liberate Europe? The dead don’t go home to build and procreate.


14 posted on 02/18/2022 11:31:33 AM PST by allendale
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To: angry elephant; RandFan

“NATO has become a dumb idea.”

170,000 Russian combat troops massed on the border of Ukraine while Putin issues nuclear threats at Europe and the USA proves you wrong.

NATO was created to keep the Russians out of Europe and it is doing it’s job so well that Putin is having a temper tantrum over our refusal to go along with his delusional fantasies of a resurgent Soviet Empire.


15 posted on 02/18/2022 11:32:53 AM PST by MercyFlush (DANGER: You are being conditioned to view your freedom as selfish)
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To: allendale

Can’t disagree with what you say.
Hitler would be in South America up to Mexico by now if Soviets had not decimated 2 million German troops.


16 posted on 02/18/2022 11:35:47 AM PST by LibFreeUSA
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To: DIRTYSECRET

“Anyone remember the Mansfield Amendment? “

Do you mean the one that would preclude the US military acting as drug enforcement officers? Or are you referring to something else?


17 posted on 02/18/2022 11:36:08 AM PST by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: MercyFlush

Russia is hated by everybody except a few rogue nations like Iran, Syria, Cuba, Venezuela and their great rogue ally China.

This article proves why Rand Paul is a jackwagon and will never be elected to national office. Nato has not invited Ukraine to be in NATO.

They have rejected Putin’s idiotic blackmail that they NEVER be invited. Vlady keeps losing.


18 posted on 02/18/2022 11:36:45 AM PST by rbmillerjr
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To: angry elephant

Well, NATO is not just about Russia (though that was its primary intent when it was drafted). Today, NATO is not just about Russia.


19 posted on 02/18/2022 11:38:35 AM PST by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: ought-six

For once, I agree with Rand Paul on a foreign policy issue.


20 posted on 02/18/2022 11:50:18 AM PST by ohioman
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