US GOV WILL BAN MOST PETS ON JANUARY 1, 2023

FATHER FISH - YOUTUBE ^ | 2/4/22 | Father Fish

[Louis Foxwell]

House Resolution 5421, passed on party lines, and Senate bill S626 will amend the Lacy act to prohibit the transportation into or within the US of all live animals of all types. Exceptions are: 1 - farm animals 2 - cats and dogs 3 - any animal that was traded in very large numbers during the calendar year 2021. It should be noted that the pandemic greatly reduced animal shipments during 2021.

This will destroy most of the pet industry. Only those most popular 50 species of fish sold by chain stores in vast quantities will be listed. It should be noted that the common Plecostomus is the most injurious and most popular fish in the industry. Clearly the bill is not about the protection of anything other than special interests.

This law, if passed will create a white list of approved species. ALL others will be banned. The result will be loss of income of indigenous people world wide and the loss of habitats hobbyists have been protecting for 75 years.

The unintended consequences of this foolish legislation will cause the extinction of thousands of species currently protected by the pet industry. Mining, logging, and farming interests are anxious to purchase this land. Once it is no longer of economic value for its natural life it will be destroyed.

Send a message to your US Senators urging them to VOTE NO to amendments to HR4521 impacting the Lacey Act.

Father Fish

[the OlLine Rebel]

Actually it has quickly devolved into a PBT thread. That is the source of the length of it, not the actual article. Off track!

[vpintheak]

Commies love restrictions and control. This BS has to be struck down. Totally unconstitutional.

[dinodino]

Guns don’t go out and randomly attack people, unlike Pit Bulls. I’m not in favor of banning the dogs, but anyone who owns one should have his head examined.

[NautiNurse]

Sounds like they are trying to get at things like the Snakehead fish.

Burmese pythons have decimated the native mammal population in the FL Everglades. Initially introduced into the Everglades by either accidental or intentional release of a "pet" python, thousands of the invasive species are removed annually. Other well known invasive species in and around Florida include the destructive Lionfish, the Giant African snail and the Cuban tree frog.

Invasive Species: A plant or animal species that has been introduced to an environment where it is not native, and that has since become a nuisance through rapid spread and increase in numbers, often to the detriment of native species.

The Snakes That Ate Florida

[MayflowerMadam]

“has since become a nuisance through rapid spread and increase in numbers,”

Calling pythons a “nuisance” struck me as funny. The writer is a master of understatement. A hive of hornets on your porch, or a few extra mice: Nuisances. Pythons? ... Yikes!

[Louis Foxwell]

The bill Rubio submitted is now the same bill passed by the House as amendment to the Lacy Act. It creates a white list of species approved for transport into the Us and between the states. ALL OTHERS are banned.
It awaits certain approval by the Senate based on Republican support from Collins and Ribio.

[Louis Foxwell]

I have lived with destructive invasive species for 30* years in south west Florida. The most troublesome species were introduced either directly or with the support of Florida government officials. The problem of destructive invasives will not be controlled by this. Government will continue to do what it pleases. The only real consequence will be the destruction of precious habitat and the extinction of species protected by skilled hobbyists.

[bert]

Well...... think pythons. Pythons have eaten the small animal population of the Everglades and are out of control.

Then there are the American cities

[PIF]

H. R. 5421.

This Act may be cited as the “Coffee Plant Health Initiative Amendments Act”. Mr. Kahele (for himself, Mr. Case, Miss González-Colón, Ms. Lee of California, Mr. San Nicolas, Mr. Sablan, and Mrs. Radewagen) introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee on Agriculture

https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/5421/text?r=41&s=1

Senate bill S626

https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/senate-bill/626?s=1&r=11

This bill modifies the injurious wildlife provision of the Lacey Act, which generally prohibits the import and shipment of listed living creatures and their eggs.

First, the bill specifies that the prohibition on shipment applies to interstate shipments within the continental United States.

Second, the bill authorizes the Department of the Interior to issue an emergency designation prohibiting the importation of a species if necessary to address an imminent threat to human beings, to the interests of agriculture, horticulture, forestry, or to wildlife, or to the wildlife resources of the United States.

Third, the bill establishes a presumptive prohibition on the importation of any nonnative species of wild mammal, wild bird, fish (including mollusks and crustacea), amphibian, or reptile, or the eggs of any such species. The presumption may be overcome if Interior determines that the species does not pose a significant risk of invasiveness to the United States.

[ought-six]

“Dogs are not inanimate objects.”

I never said they were. But my comment was meant to illustrate that it’s an easy segue from banning dogs to banning guns, as both are emotion-based leaps.

[ought-six]

“Strange, I never hear about Golden Retrievers from bad pet owners attacking people.....”

You don’t know the guy and his golden retriever one block over from me.

It’s strange, but I’ve had pitties and pittie mixes for the last 30 years, and all of them have been great dogs, very friendly with other people and their dogs. We have a large back yard, and friends and neighbors and their dogs come over all the time (with the exception of the guy a block over, who is an ass, and his dog is Cujo).

[ought-six]

“The flaw in your argument is that a gun cannot decide for itself to act. It requires a human to operate it because it is merely a piece of equipment.”

Okay, Chet99. You missed the entire point of my comment: If one is quick to ban an animal because its owner is irresponsible, it’s not a great leap to ban a gun — which has no volition at all — because its owner is irresponsible. Get it?

[metmom]

You aren’t making the point you think you are.

Even the most responsible dog owner CANNOT control his dog 100%. The dog is a living creature capable of acting independently on its own initiative.

A gun is not and can not.

No gun is going to pick itself up off the table and shoot someone. The dog can CHOOSE to act on its own and obey its owner or not no matter how well trained or how responsible the owner.

You’re comparing apples to oranges. It doesn’t work.

[ought-six]

My God, are you that simple? I am pointing out the segue, the slippery slope.

[miserare]

No, but...Goldens have a bad habit of breaking loose and impregnating all the female dogs within a two mile radius.