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Good grades barely matter in NYC’s new high school application process
New York Post ^ | February 5, 2022 | Susan Edelman and Mary Kay Linge

Posted on 02/05/2022 1:51:05 PM PST by karpov

The city’s high school application process is now a crapshoot — and top grades barely matter.

One month before the application deadline, the Department of Education unveiled its long-awaited new admission system, lowering the bar for entry into many competitive high schools — and tossing kids with a range of academic achievement into a random hopper.

“It’s now essentially a lottery system masquerading as a selective process,” said Effie Zakry, a vice-president of the Citywide Council on High Schools, a DOE parental advisory body.

Eighth graders have until March 1 to submit an application listing up to 12 high schools or special programs of their choice in order of preference.

When Principal Nancy Harris at Manhattan’s Spruce Street School explained the new selection system to eighth-graders last week, “The auditorium went nuts,” said Liv Olsen, 13. “A lot of kids were really angry: ‘What about kids who have better grades? What about everyone in this room? What the hell?’”

Amy Nicolas, a straight-A Catholic school eighth-grader, is aiming for Townsend Harris HS in Queens or another top-ranked public school.

“I’m definitely worried about my chances. It’s pretty much a lottery,” she said. “My friends are very smart – their grades are 90 and above – but they’re actually pretty scared of being rejected.”

The DOE’s bewildering new system, an effort to boost equity in nearly 400 high schools, is based on a complex mathematical formula.

For each student, it will take the single top mark in four core subjects – English, math, social studies and science – in seventh or eighth grade. A point value is assigned to each of those marks. The points are then averaged to determine which of four lottery groups the student falls into.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: New York
KEYWORDS: education; nyc; publicschools
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"Equity" means you can't admit students based on grades or test scores.
1 posted on 02/05/2022 1:51:05 PM PST by karpov
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To: karpov

I feel bad for today’s kids. All those woke annoying teachers.


2 posted on 02/05/2022 1:54:32 PM PST by toddausauras (How far will the left go in terms of destroying our personal freedoms?)
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To: karpov
The question I always ask is, in school systems run by progressives in blue cities, why are some schools considered special? Shouldn't they strive for the same level of quality in ALL schools? Why do these target schools even exist?

If the answer is that they give the best students a chance to move ahead without being slowed down by mediocre students, then the new policy undermines the reason for the school's existence and they should just abandon the idea entirely.
3 posted on 02/05/2022 1:57:00 PM PST by Steve_Seattle
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To: karpov

Why don’t we randomly assign careers by student in first grade? That way it would be really fair.


4 posted on 02/05/2022 1:58:48 PM PST by alternatives? (The only reason to have an army is to defend your borders.)
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To: karpov; 6amgelsmama; 100American; AAABEST; aberaussie; AccountantMom; Aggie Mama; agrace; ...

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5 posted on 02/05/2022 2:05:39 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith….)
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To: karpov

The ASIANS there had their chance to SPEAK UP and end this crap.

They chose not to.

Now their kids pay.


6 posted on 02/05/2022 2:07:16 PM PST by BobL (Money is the most important thing in my life.)
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I feel bad for the remaining “good” schools, like Bronx Science. I wonder how long the teachers there will put up with the new status quo? Probably not very long. They will retire or jump ship to community colleges. And then that will be that.


7 posted on 02/05/2022 2:10:14 PM PST by rbg81
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Can’t wait for the equity MDs.

Oh, wait!

They’re here!


8 posted on 02/05/2022 2:10:27 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("Communism is not love. Communism is a hammer which we use to crush the enemy." ― Mao Zedong [FJB])
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The ASIANS there had their chance to SPEAK UP and end this crap.


Like Jews, a lot of Asians are hopelessly liberal. Not all, but most. I have never understood it.


9 posted on 02/05/2022 2:11:24 PM PST by rbg81
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Does someone somewhere think this will cause Black kids to try harder to make better grades?

Or, is the purpose to mask their continued failures?

10 posted on 02/05/2022 2:11:26 PM PST by blam
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To: karpov

When none of us are educated, no one will be stupider.


11 posted on 02/05/2022 2:12:34 PM PST by DannyTN
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While countries around the world are promoting kids based on ability the US the basing promotions on diversity, inclusion and (equity whatever that is). We are condemning our future leaders to come in last place when it comes to standings in world competition.


12 posted on 02/05/2022 2:14:41 PM PST by antidemoncrat (somRead more at: https://economicti Astronomers see white dwarf 'switch on and off' for first time)
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All that matters now is Race and whatever other oppressed intersectionality’s group you can glom onto.


13 posted on 02/05/2022 2:16:05 PM PST by Kozak (The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. TV)
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To: karpov

I’d be okay with this — if they sorted the kids by academic ability and not age.

All schools should, actually, bc grouping kids by age has little meaning outside of physical and emotional maturity, and even that has much variance within age groups.


15 posted on 02/05/2022 2:23:49 PM PST by nicollo
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Just another day of equity at Harrison Bergeron High School.


16 posted on 02/05/2022 2:29:26 PM PST by KarlInOhio (I stand behind Alec Baldwin. It is far too dangerous to stand in front of him.)
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They shouldn’t worry about kids grades. The first priority is to get rid of all the illiterate teachers. That’s about 95% of them. Did you ever hear a NYC teacher form a complete sentence that expressed a cogent thought?


17 posted on 02/05/2022 2:29:28 PM PST by ConservativeInPA (Two weeks to slow the spread of communism.)
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To: BobL
The ASIANS there had their chance to SPEAK UP and end this crap.

Most Asians believe the Democrat narrative that white men are out to oppress them. With the Democrats screwing them out of their educational opportunities, you'd think they would wise up, but they don't.

18 posted on 02/05/2022 2:36:53 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (THE ISSUE IS NEVER THE ISSUE. THE REVOLUTION IS THE ISSUE.)
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To: alternatives?

“Why don’t we randomly assign careers by student in first grade? That way it would be really fair.”

Why even bother going to school for that matter?

Marko


19 posted on 02/05/2022 2:37:07 PM PST by markoman (Cautiously cynical)
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To: karpov

Just as in the former Soviet Union, if your parents were privileged before The Revolution, you were on the bottom of the list.


20 posted on 02/05/2022 2:37:48 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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