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To: WMarshal
Now the grifting Eurotrash sit there with no military, ...

After World War One, and again after World War Two, Germany was banned from becoming too strong militarily. They've also been guilt-tripped against taking pride in classic Prussian militarism.

Are you now blaming the Germans for being militarily weak? You might blame some other European nations for that, but Germany is according to the Allies' postwar design.

7 posted on 02/03/2022 1:05:47 AM PST by Angelino97
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To: Angelino97

I would also point out that NATO was really designed to protect Europe from Germany more than the Soviet Union.


10 posted on 02/03/2022 1:34:41 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("Mr. Potato Head ... Mr. Potato Head! Back doors are not secrets.")
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To: Angelino97
"Are you now blaming the Germans for being militarily weak? You might blame some other European nations for that, but Germany is according to the Allies' postwar design.

Your are damned right I am going to blame Germany.

President Trump tried for four years to get NATO allies to spend more on their own defense and to grow their militaries and they refused to do so. You seem to have forgotten that - or did you?

Europeans are freaking out now about being totally dependent on Russia gas and President Trump warned them to build more LNG terminals, not to decommission their nuclear energy, and to quit being such useless spongers and many ignored him, especially Germany under Frau Merkel.

The Europeans were just happy to laugh at us behind their back while they took our money and Evan to think that America, and all the suckers in it, belonged to them. They were even starting to demand the right to vote in our elections when the execrable GWB was president.

If the Kraut led EU wants to fight a Third World War then they can do it on their own.

11 posted on 02/03/2022 1:46:39 AM PST by WMarshal ("No war for communism")
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To: Angelino97

Germany has long since been urged time and time again to beef up its military and to get over WWII. Do you see the Russians or the Chinese allowing themselves to be completely paralyzed because they had mass murdering dictators in charge at one point in the 20th century? Of course not.

The Germans have CHOSEN to wallow in a lack of self confidence when it comes to hard power. Part of the reason for that is a cynical calculation that they could just freeload off of Uncle Sugar to provide for their defense so they could lavish money that should have been going toward defense on ever more socialism at home.

It is long long past time the Germans grew up, grew a spine and started taking on responsibilities commensurate with their desire to exercise diplomatic clout abroad. If they want to be treated like a serious country they need to start acting like a serious country.


25 posted on 02/03/2022 4:50:10 AM PST by FLT-bird
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To: Angelino97
“After World War One, and again after World War Two, Germany was banned from becoming too strong militarily.”

Not true. In late 80’s the Western Germany alone had a half million soldiers.

36 posted on 02/03/2022 11:02:13 AM PST by Grzegorz 246
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