[hoe_cake]

So contrary to what the American media is purporting

[goodnesswins]

I am praying that friends and family I know who got the shots have no adverse (short or long term) effects

[laplata]

And they persecute the un-vaxed. It’s all ass backwards.

[BenLurkin]

Who there isn’t “vaccinated” yet?

[Mr Elk]

Cheers to Australia - they have created a pandemic of the vaccinated!

[fluorescence]

Well, this is why. They have very few unvaccinateds in those older age groups, but the vaccines are imperfect and the death rate for triple-vaxed people over 60 is at least as much as for unvaccinated people under 40, more than 10x for people over 70. Their deaths are nearly always in the elderly.

Risk of dying from covid-19, Australia, January 2022

[aquila48]

Most of these type of stories claiming the vaxed represent a bigger number than those unvaxed leave out a very important number - the vaccination rate among the population in question.

Without this number, the rest of the story doesn’t tell you much. For example, if 100% of the people are vaxed than 100% of the people who catch the virus (nobody claims the vaccine is perfect) are the vaxed. But that says nothing about the effectiveness of the vax vs not having the vax.

This article, to its credit, actually does include the percentage of the population that were vaxed. So we can actually make some judgement regarding the effectiveness of the vax. It says....

“New South Wales has a high vaccination rate, with 91.5 percent of residents age 12 and older “fully vaccinated” as of late November.

Among patients hospitalized for the virus whose vaccination history was reported, 82 percent had received two doses – or 87 percent without taking into account kids ineligible for vaccination.

People with two jabs also made up around three-quarters of ICU patients and COVID deaths.”

So if these numbers are correct, in a population that is 91% vaxed, those that caught the virus and were hospitalized, 87 were from the vaxed group.

This tells me that the proportion of those hospitalized is roughly the same as those who were vaxed (87% vs 91%). From this one can conclude that the vax doesn’t do much to keep you out of the hospital, but it also does not increase your chance of getting hospitalized

This assumes that the numbers are correct and that I’m reading it right.

Any feedback would be welcome.

[Bob434]

you can’t win with liberal liars and power drunk leaders- they will simply claim “Well ok, but there woudl be a lot more dead if we hadn’t mandated that people get vaccinated’, and since you can’t prove a negative- they get away with it

[Pajamajan]

bttt

[ronnie raygun]

THEY HAVE CREATED SUPER SPREADERS WHILE THE NARRATIVE IS THE EVIL UNVACCINATED

[Gumdrop]

This is not surprising. Older folks have a much higher percentage of vaccinated people in their demographic. Second - it is apparent that the vaccines are not all that effective after a few months. Hence putting the two together, there will be more death among the vaccinates - because of age plus the poor performance of the vaccines.