Posted on 02/02/2022 10:31:49 AM PST by Presbyterian Reporter
“ They need a Canadian Trump. “
You better believe it!
LOL! That's a pretty high standard you are setting, isn't it?
The Liberals should do the same to Trudeau
Nope. 😉 Ms. Candice, the Canadian, went back to her maiden name of Bergen after a divorce. Ran under the name Hoeppner (sp)
Hasta la vista, O’Foole!
Don’t let the door hit ya where the truckers kicked ya.
WTH???
Yep. You read that correctly. Read the rest of my post 10.
From the time he collected the conservative preferential ballots to the time he had both blown the next election and ensured that his entire time as party leader would be a complete waste was about 15 minutes.
Romney neither attempted to claim to be the conservative alternative (O’Toole ran to the right of McKay, who was at least authentically himself), and was somewhat cagey until he had blown his election. O’Toole just sunk the party from the word go.
The leader doesn’t cease to be leader just because he is awful or a loser—getting rid of one takes some doing.
Good news out of Canada in removing this toothless wimp as opposition leader to the Stalinazi Turd Dough.
Unfortunately, finding an ACTUAL conservative in the Canadian Conservative Party seems to be extremely difficult, similar to UK politics.
I can't seem to find a list online that ranks how conservative the members of the Canuk house are.
The problem is that the party uses weighted voting in the nomination system that largely disenfranchises the west, especially when coupled with a ranked-preference system. The second candidate (of four) eliminated when O’Toole was nominated had at least the plurality, if not the majority, of actual votes that round before they were “weighted”, with a couple of dozen of people in a Quebec riding carrying the same weight as thousands in a western riding.
The 3rd place finisher, Leslyn Lewis, seemed to be pretty decent as well. The "Conservative" Party also punished her, refusing to give her any shadow cabinet posts because she questioned how effective the "vaccine" is. Shame on her for telling the truth! It would interesting to have her as leader, if for no other reason than the leftists would tear their hair out if a black woman were the face of conservativism up there.
O'Toole and MacKay (1st and 2nd place finishers) are both worthless CINOs, whose policies are Liberal-lite. Amusingly, O'Toole ran to MacKay's right even though O'Toole has zero policies that are actually conservative.
There's probably some dark horse solid conservative MP's in the Canadian House I haven't heard about. We need a better bench than what was available in 2020.
That is both my order of preference in voting (I left the fourth spot blank—McKay doesn’t even pretend to be a CINO, though at least with him you get experience and know that one is getting a Progressive) and largely my assessment, along with with a few caveats: Lewis also had zero experience, which is something to consider, and may soften the decision not to give her a cabinet post. Sloan has more experience, but not enough to ensure that he is solid or, when coupled with his prudence, to allow him to navigate difficult waters so as to stay in caucus. While O’Toole was clearly an opportunist, the other two may be as well.
I like Scott Moe, admittedly out of Caucus, but he has actual real experience. It seems to me that if he ran he and Lewis would be the front runners—there may be other people worth considering.
“I can’t seem to find a list online that ranks how conservative the members of the Canuk house are.”
That would be pretty cool for Canada and the UK (and Aus and NZ).
Anyway this jerk sure lived up to his name. Him vs. McKay was like Romney vs. McCain. He even flip flopped on a carbon tax.
The next leader looks like it will be Pierre Poilievre, the party’s “best communicator”. He’s talking the talk, I hope it’s not just hot air.
The road to winning the convention vote is long. I hear that Pierre has much of the same support as O’Toole had, an O’Toole made a strong attempt to “talk the talk” before going unabashedly “Red Tory.” (The Tories in Canada have long been divided into “Red” and “Blue” factions, and thus the longstanding contradiction of a name “Progressive Conservative” as a unifying band-aid.
I think the thing about O’Toole is he was *always* a Red Tory, he sure sounded like one before he ran to the right to beat McKay. Dude is just a straight up conman and peeps were so desperate for an alternative to McKay that they bought it, may as well have gone with friggin McKay they way thing turned out.
Bernier isn’t perfect but I wish he’d have beat Scheer back in ‘17. As I recall he lost because of that lame system you mentioned, ironically cause Scheer won a bunch of Quebec ridings cause Bernier was against farm subsidies.
I find it ironic that the same FReepers who go around lecturing about how "we can't let the media define words for us!" are totally supportive of this Orwellian "Red State" crap. It seems to me everytime useful idiots on "our side" scream "VOTE RED!" at the top of their lungs, they indeed end up with a bunch of "reds" (Communist DemonRats) in power.
You could make a good case that "Progressive Conservative" was a similar oxymoron, but Canadian conservatives no longer use that label. Besides, I'm a conservative and I certainly believe in "progress”, so in a way it makes sense.
PC (yes that’s the acronym!!!!) parties are still the provincial level right parties in Manitoba, Ontario, and Atlantic Canada.
The level of autonomy for provincial parties is interesting, most have no formal affiliation with federal parties except the NPD.
Named after her father, no doubt.
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