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Whoopi Goldberg's Holocaust Comments on 'The View' Could Inadvertently Help Fascists
NBC News ^ | 2/1 | Noah Berlatsky

Posted on 02/01/2022 6:17:45 PM PST by nickcarraway

In Monday’s episode of ABC’s “The View,” host Whoopi Goldberg claimed the Holocaust was “not about race.” That’s historically confused and minimizes the Nazi genocide of the Jewish people. In addition, it misrepresents the nature of the Nazis and therefore makes it more difficult to oppose fascist authoritarian violence, whether that violence is directed at Jewish people or at others.

Goldberg apologized a few hours later, acknowledging that the Nazis targeted the Jews because they were a group “who they deemed to be an inferior race.” Initially, though, she said the Holocaust was not racially motivated because Jewish people are white. “This is white people doing it to white people. Y’all go fight amongst yourselves,” she said.

Goldberg did say on “The View” that it was important to teach about the Holocaust. In particular, she expressed support for Art Spiegelman’s “Maus” (which was recently removed from a Tennessee school curriculum) because it helps students “learn about man’s inhumanity to man, however it exposes itself.”

The problem with that formulation is that race isn’t a genetic or biological fact. It’s a cultural construction. Different people have been racialized — or targeted on the basis of perceived, false biological differences — at different times in different ways. Trying to apply racial categories that fit the present to the past can end up obscuring racism in both.

British art and rhetoric, for instance, long depicted Irish people as subhuman nonwhite others; when they immigrated to the U.S., though, they slowly became perceived as white. (Thus Noel Ignatiev’s book, “How the Irish Became White.”) Similarly, Italians, Eastern Europeans and Jews weren’t exactly viewed as white, either. These days, light-skinned people in all these groups are generally perceived as white — though it’s not hard to still find racialized attacks on Jewish people regardless of skin color.

The Nazis were extremely racist, to put it mildly, and there is simply no question that they saw Jewish people as racial others, rather than, for example, religious heretics. Nazis denied German Jews citizenship on the grounds that Jewish people supposedly lacked German “blood.” They also referred to Jews as an “alien race” and as “vermin.”

The Holocaust was specifically intended to wipe out Jewish people as a (perceived) race. That’s why the Nazis targeted Christians with Jewish grandparents. And it’s why they didn’t try to convert Jewish people before killing them, in contrast to that earlier, less race-focused antisemitic European atrocity, the Inquisition.

The Nazis were certainly responsible for a great variety of cruelty against a great variety of people. But violence against Jewish people — and the Roma, disabled people, Slavs and many of the Nazis’ other targets — was specifically linked to an ideology of racial, and racist, purity.

Goldberg wants to set that aside and talk instead about a generalized inhumanity to man. Her motivation there seems laudable; she wants everyone, everywhere, to feel like the Holocaust is relevant to them. “The minute you turn it into race, it goes down this alley,” she said. “Let’s talk about it for what it is. It’s how people treat each other. That’s the problem.”

But when you take the racism out of the evil ways in which people treat each other, you make it more difficult to identify racism as the source of — and a warning sign for — that evil. Many people on the right, in particular, are eager to divorce fascist authoritarianism from its specific roots in racism and racist violence.

This is how you get anti-vaxxers pinning yellow stars on themselves to suggest that they are oppressed by vaccine mandates. For them, fascism was bad because it was a generalized instance of state coercion in which freedoms were curtailed. They erase the specific experience of Jewish people and the specific experience of racism as a trigger for genocidal violence. Denying the racist roots of the Holocaust enables bad actors to try to appropriate Nazi imagery and Jewish suffering.

It also makes it difficult to identify actual fascism when it’s coming upon you. Because the Holocaust has become synonymous with generalized, total evil, people tend to downplay fascist violence that’s not generalized and total. Many people — even very knowledgeable people — are reluctant to say former President Donald Trump is a fascist because he didn’t seek to impose total social control domestically or globally.

But the hallmark of fascism is the racialization of enemies as an excuse for violence and further totalitarian power, which can then be used for more racialization, more violence, more power and on to mass death.

Trump’s leveraging of racist rhetoric and fears against Mexicans, Muslims, immigrants, Black people and, yes, Jewish people as part of his program to consolidate power and undermine democratic institutions makes fascist comparisons apt, even if he hasn’t yet made efforts as all-encompassing as some of his most infamous forebears.

White Jewish people are not the main focus of prejudice in the United States, as they were in Germany. The U.S. concentrates most of its racialized violence on people with dark skin. But Jewish people of every skin tone could become targets again. And whether fascism’s primary targets are Jewish, as in Nazi Europe, or Black people, as in every era in the U.S., we need to understand that its evil is inextricably linked to the way it picks out specific people for hatred and destruction.

The Nazis did not, first and foremost, attack a universal humanity. They attacked the Jews, a particular group they defined as a separate race and then killed. The lesson of the Holocaust is not the banal insight that people are cruel to each other in general. It’s that racism is the catalyst for atrocity. White Jewish people in the U.S. are less racialized at the moment and therefore somewhat safer than they were in the past. But in a society as racist as the U.S., safety and freedom for any marginalized people will always be tenuous.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: fascist; theview; whoopigoldberg
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To: nickcarraway

Whoopi Cushion’s ‘1938 Project’.


21 posted on 02/01/2022 7:02:31 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (You can vote your way into socialism but you have to shoot your way out of it.)
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To: unread

The writer thinks fascism is violent culmination of racism, so if you remove the Aryan racism ie, antisemitism of the Nazis, you make the early stages of fascism harder to recognize.


22 posted on 02/01/2022 7:08:35 PM PST by Chicory
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To: libertylover

That’s Berlatsky’s stock in trade.


23 posted on 02/01/2022 7:13:34 PM PST by sauropod (Whom the gods would destroy they first make mad. Life is risk, your highness.)
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To: nickcarraway

Racial purity certainly wasn’t a Fascist trope. Fascism in Italy wasn’t antisemitic, quite the opposite, many Jews were in its “brain trust”, precisely because it was opposed to the traditional Catholic-aristocratic power structure in much of traditional Italy, which excluded Jews. Mussolini’s inner circle had several Jews, including his very influential mistress Margherita Sarfatti. Race wasn’t in itself an obsession of the Fascists, race-mixing was not a big deal. Cf. the famous “Faccetta Nera” -
“Pretty black face, beautiful Abyssinian
Wait and see, for the hour is coming!
When we are with you
We shall give you another law and another king”

Imagine the Nazis singing about beautiful Abyssinians!

The Nazis were something else. Race WAS a big deal, and especially antisemitism was at the core of their ideology.

The Spanish fascists didn’t care about race at all, beyond the general casual racism of the time common to every European. The regime were fine with promoting Moroccan officers including one general at least, Mohammed Ben Mizzian. In all this they were at least as “modern” as the French at the time.


24 posted on 02/01/2022 7:16:14 PM PST by buwaya
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To: nickcarraway

Berlatsky should be ashamed of himself for writing this. It is the worst set of smears I’ve seen in a while.


25 posted on 02/01/2022 7:16:35 PM PST by sauropod (Whom the gods would destroy they first make mad. Life is risk, your highness.)
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To: nickcarraway

Liberals like Whoopi are the Fascists of today.


26 posted on 02/01/2022 7:52:26 PM PST by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne )
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To: All

She was suspended from The View over these comments.

Hmmm. It’s almost as if …


27 posted on 02/01/2022 8:01:09 PM PST by TigerClaws
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To: nickcarraway

National Broadcasting Company news.

“Wait, wait, look at the racist jackass!! “

How is this news?

Why not News about what is really going on?

Like the big con.


28 posted on 02/01/2022 8:04:25 PM PST by FlyingEagle
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Note how this article contradicts CRT.

It says white people and subgroups of whites have historically been victims of racism.

That contradicts everything MSM and the Cultural Marxists have been saying and teaching for the past decade.

Whoopi (Caryn) is imploding the entire work culture with this. Lol!


29 posted on 02/01/2022 8:04:37 PM PST by TigerClaws
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To: nickcarraway

wow... the total projection here...


30 posted on 02/01/2022 8:09:24 PM PST by Skywise
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To: nickcarraway

And then after she supposedly was ‘educated’ she went on Steven Colbert and said the same stupid stuff again.


31 posted on 02/01/2022 8:24:03 PM PST by Beowulf9
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To: nickcarraway

How will this help democrats? 🤨


32 posted on 02/01/2022 8:42:07 PM PST by NWFree (Somebody has to say it)
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To: nickcarraway

I think the Nuremberg trials pretty well settled this Whoppie.

Too bad you weren’t around back then to set them straight.


33 posted on 02/01/2022 8:52:30 PM PST by DoughtyOne (I pledge allegience to the flag of the U S of A, and to the REPUBLIC for which it stands.)
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To: nickcarraway

Inadvertently?


34 posted on 02/01/2022 9:01:34 PM PST by TBP (Decent people cannot fathom the amoral cruelty of the Biden regime.)
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To: Telepathic Intruder

They’re all white devils to her.


35 posted on 02/01/2022 9:11:49 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: nickcarraway

Methinks that this Noah Berlatsky is an ANTI AMERICAN RACIST!


36 posted on 02/01/2022 9:51:27 PM PST by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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To: nickcarraway
For them, fascism was bad because it was a generalized instance of state coercion in which freedoms were curtailed.

They are entitled to focus on that general aspect of fascism, if they so wish.

They erase the specific experience of Jewish people and the specific experience of racism as a trigger for genocidal violence.

"Erase" is the wrong word. Rather, they choose to focus on the general aspect of "state coercion."

Denying the racist roots of the Holocaust enables bad actors to try to appropriate Nazi imagery and Jewish suffering.

So "focussing on something else" -> "erasing" -> "denying." Very clever equivocation / "moving goalposts!"

Regards,

37 posted on 02/01/2022 9:58:28 PM PST by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: nickcarraway
"...could inadvertently help facists."

Anyone who doesn't vote Democrat is evil. We get it. Now shut up.

38 posted on 02/01/2022 9:59:59 PM PST by Widget Jr
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To: nickcarraway

I don’t think the author knows what Fascism is. The cooperation between corporations and government, the former doing the latter’s bidding, and acting as a de-facto arm of the government is part of it.

Sounds familiar, right?

Mussolini is the true father of Fascism, and racial purity wasn’t on the top of his list. Hitler committed such vast atrocities that Fascism is only applied to him, but he modeled his government after Mussolini’s.

People need to read more.


39 posted on 02/02/2022 12:13:37 AM PST by Tacrolimus1mg (Do no harm, but take no sh!t.)
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To: nickcarraway

This author is joke. He is trying to deflect obvious anti-Semitism onto another group that has nothing to do with the incident.


40 posted on 02/02/2022 1:03:09 AM PST by KC_Conspirator
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