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Tesla recall: “Full Self-Driving” software runs stop signs
The Associated Press ^ | February 1, 2022

Posted on 02/01/2022 4:43:28 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer

DETROIT (AP) — Tesla is recalling nearly 54,000 cars and SUVs because their “Full Self-Driving” software lets them roll through stop signs without coming to a complete halt.

Documents posted Tuesday by U.S. safety regulators say that Tesla will disable the feature with an over-the-internet software update. The “rolling stop” feature allows vehicles to go through intersections with all-way stop signs at up to 5.6 miles per hour.

Selected Tesla drivers are “beta testing” the “Full Self-Driving” software on public roads. The company says the cars cannot drive themselves and drivers must be ready to take action at all times.

A firmware release to disable the rolling stops is expected to be sent out in early February.

A message was left early Tuesday seeking comment from Tesla, which has disbanded its media relations department.

Alain Kornhauser, faculty chair of autonomous vehicle engineering at Princeton University, said the recall is an example of NHTSA is doing its job as the nation’s road safety watchdog. The recall “shows that they can be effective even if Tesla should have been more responsible in the first place,” he said.

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1 posted on 02/01/2022 4:43:28 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Gee, you’d think the programmers would focus first on stopping the vehicle if a human being or animal is in the way, and second to stop at a stop sign. The signs are universal in shape and size, at least in this country.


2 posted on 02/01/2022 4:48:12 AM PST by Bernard ("The refusal to take sides on great moral issues is itself a decision." Fulton Sheen)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I give Elon Musk all the credit for his amazing technology with SpaceX, but you simply cannot code the stupidity factor of other drivers into the self driving automobile software..


3 posted on 02/01/2022 4:48:33 AM PST by Shady (The #JihadJunta is now a Dictatorship, there are no more “laws..”)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
From 2017...

Self-Driving Cars Will Kill People. Who Decides Who Dies? Opinion: The dawn of autonomous vehicles means we must solve the trolley problem.

4 posted on 02/01/2022 4:53:25 AM PST by mewzilla (God bless Canada's Freedom Truckers!)
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To: Shady

Self-driving cars are about public safety the same way CoupFlu is about public health.


5 posted on 02/01/2022 4:54:17 AM PST by mewzilla (God bless Canada's Freedom Truckers!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Desperate hit piece after 10% positive stock pop. Duh.


6 posted on 02/01/2022 4:59:44 AM PST by Born to Conserve
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Next month, Tesla is introducing its latest model of self driving car, the “Death Wish.”


7 posted on 02/01/2022 4:59:46 AM PST by twister881
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Obviously the govt hasn’t caught up with Elon’s tech and needs to upgrade and program the stop signs to comm with Teslas command and control modules. Sheesh!


8 posted on 02/01/2022 5:08:22 AM PST by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this? 😕)
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“The agency also is investigating why Teslas on Autopilot have repeatedly crashed into emergency vehicles parked on roadways.”

Something our EV reps here don’t bother to tell us...


9 posted on 02/01/2022 5:10:26 AM PST by BobL (Money is the most important thing in my life.)
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“Full Self-Driving” software runs stop signs -

Wow, just like humans - isn't AI awesome!

10 posted on 02/01/2022 5:10:43 AM PST by Psalm 73 ("You'll never hear surf music again" - J. Hendrix)
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So they design their software to BREAK THE LAW by rolling through stop signs. Good, the owners deserve the tickets.


11 posted on 02/01/2022 5:11:50 AM PST by BobL (Money is the most important thing in my life.)
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To: Bernard

They were California programmers and programmed the California stop.


12 posted on 02/01/2022 5:15:24 AM PST by pas
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Alain Kornhauser, faculty chair of autonomous vehicle engineering at Princeton University, said the recall is an example of NHTSA is doing its job as the nation’s road safety watchdog. The recall “shows that they can be effective even if Tesla should have been more responsible in the first place,” he said.

This story is likely the regime getting back at Elon Musk for calling Biden a “damp sock puppet”.


13 posted on 02/01/2022 5:28:43 AM PST by Flick Lives (The CDC. Brought to you by Pfizer.)
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It'll do fine in Massachusetts.

NEVER run a GREEN light in Massachusetts!

14 posted on 02/01/2022 5:30:29 AM PST by Mogger
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
A message was left early Tuesday seeking comment from Tesla, which has disbanded its media relations department.

Snicker.

15 posted on 02/01/2022 5:35:50 AM PST by Fresh Wind (Media Control is an anagram of Delta Omicron.)
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To: Bernard

Gee, you’d think the programmers would focus first on stopping the vehicle if a human being or animal is in the way, and second to stop at a stop sign. The signs are universal in shape and size, at least in this country.

Recognition is more subtle than one thinks. You know what a stop sign looks like because you are conscious and carry a higher level concept of a stop sign. The recognition part “works” for you because your mind is consciously “looking” for stop signs. It. has a leaned understanding of important objects and can therefor rapidly differentiate a dog from a squirrel or leaves blowing in the wind.

An autonomous vehicle has no higher level consciousness. It doesn’t know stop signs, dog, people or leaves blowing in the wind. It has no meta understanding of any of that. It has only sensors attempting to differentiate shadows from objects and algorithms to attempt to identify objects. It then applies any rules, more algorithms, on top of its “decisions” about objects. Algorithms on top of algorithms all without any overriding conscious process occurring at a higher level.

So something a seemingly simple as a snow covered stop-sign, or a stop-sign half shaded by a tree limb, may not be “recognized” as a stop sign.


16 posted on 02/01/2022 5:39:55 AM PST by Flick Lives (The CDC. Brought to you by Pfizer.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

People might be alarmed at the number of computer programmers that are so liberal they don’t even have a driver’s license.


17 posted on 02/01/2022 5:45:50 AM PST by CodeToad (Arm up! They Have!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

And here I thought stop signs were just suggestions.


18 posted on 02/01/2022 5:47:55 AM PST by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually" (Hendrix) )
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Tesla needs programmers “with compassion and vision”...


19 posted on 02/01/2022 5:51:31 AM PST by newfreep (“Leftism, under all of its brand names, is a severe, violent & evil mental disorder.”)
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...their “Full Self-Driving” software lets them roll through stop signs without coming to a complete halt.

It's called the "Hillary" subroutine in the programming.

20 posted on 02/01/2022 5:55:33 AM PST by COBOL2Java (Fauci is a despicable little turd)
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