I'm aware of Germany's historical reason for pacificism. But they are dependent on Russian oil right now. Or they will have no energy if the Russians shut down the pipelines.
Posted on 01/29/2022 4:16:49 PM PST by MinorityRepublican
Germany's refusal to send weapons to Ukraine has puzzled and angered some allies. But the reasons why Europe's most powerful country is standing back are historical and complex.
There's a great grassy plain to the east of Berlin where the soil tells terrible stories.
As farmers plough, their blades disturb human bones, weapons; the fragments of one of the most brutal battles of World War Two.
It was spring 1945. Hitler was hiding in a bunker in Berlin, his troops in retreat. Soviet forces advanced from the east across the plain but, above them on a hill called the Seelow Heights, the Nazis had taken up a defensive position.
It was, by all accounts, a muddy, chaotic bloodbath. The Soviets eventually prevailed, hastening the end of the war, but it's estimated up to 30,000 of their soldiers were killed.
To visit the memorial at Seelow Heights is to understand how deeply entrenched this country's history remains in the minds of many Germans - and how the horrors of the 20th Century still influence its foreign policy today.
(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.com ...
I'm aware of Germany's historical reason for pacificism. But they are dependent on Russian oil right now. Or they will have no energy if the Russians shut down the pipelines.
The answer is simple: Russia promised to let them have Poland.
One, Germans in Ukraine is just wrong. Two, they are looking forward to the Nordstream direct line where the Ukrainian and DC kleptocracies can’t get in the middle.
Krauts and Ruskies. Hate em both.
Maybe just maybe the Germans have come to the conclusion that NATO is an outdated alliance, that their long term prosperity depends on Russia being their premiere trading partner and they don’t share the American neocon’s enthusiasm for globalism and the wars that are necessary to destroy nationalism. Maybe they took a hard look at their Swiss cousins, their peace and prosperity and concluded that the amoral Swiss have a pretty good setup.
“Why Germany isn’t sending weapons to Ukraine”
They burned the maps to Lemberg and Kiev in 1945, and they’ve got more sense than to make new ones.
“ Russia promised to let them have Poland.”
Poland? I doubt it.
Königsberg? Possible.
There were Germans in Königsberg but that was an era ago.
“Why Germany isn’t sending weapons to Ukraine..”
They remember 1945? And they ain’t even the country now that they were then.
Russian natural resources
German industry
It’s a natural alliance, one than the Americans and British have spent 2 centuries sabotaging.
I know Königsberg was German for 1000 years and Russian for 75, I know it’s an expensive anachronism for Russia to keep and if they could get value for it (German neutrality in a Ukraine war and closure of airports to US military), they would be smart to make the deal.
The post-1945 world is hardly an era. It’s a phase, rapidly passing away.
The article is BS, to cover for the obvious - the new German Chancellor is on the other side.
Olaf Scholz is a life-long hard Left Marxist, who lead an anti-NATO disarmament group in his youth. He wants Russia to win, and NATO to lose. He is like their Obama
“ Russian natural resources
German industry
It’s a natural alliance, one than the Americans and British have spent 2 centuries sabotaging.”
Correct, now UK is committing national suicide and US is invaded. Germany is looking to its interests, as is normal.
Germany is changing sides.
And it’s natural. Russia has a lot to offer, US does not.
odd bed fellows
Germany until March 2011 obtained one-quarter of its electricity from nuclear energy, using 17 reactors. Nuclear power is planned be phased out by 2022.
A coalition government formed after the 1998 federal elections had the phasing out of nuclear energy as a feature of its policy. With a new government in 2009, the phase-out was cancelled, but then reintroduced in 2011 following the Fukushima accident in Japan, with eight reactors shut down immediately.
Public opinion in Germany remains broadly opposed to nuclear power with virtually no support for building new nuclear plants.
To visit the memorial at Seelow Heights is to understand how deeply entrenched this country’s history remains in the minds of many Germans - and how the horrors of the 20th Century still influence its foreign policy today.
***It’s interesting that their memory doesn’t extend to how many tens of millions they wiped out themselves by STARTING WW2 and continuing past all obvious moral warning signs.
Russia is still underdeveloped. It would benefit from some sort of Marshall Plan. German Engineers and their capital would be perfect for it.
Stupid. But it's good for the Russians. They need to sell all that natural gas to Germany.
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