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Texas synagogue hostage-taker died from multiple gunshot wounds, coroner says
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Posted on 01/21/2022 9:51:11 AM PST by nickcarraway

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To: Mr. Lucky; proust
OK, how do you think he died?

Lead poisoning, brought on by COVID...

21 posted on 01/21/2022 10:27:16 AM PST by COBOL2Java (Fauci is a despicable little turd)
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To: Perseverando
Sounds like the hostages blew it, for the planners, so they had to shut the patsy up.

That's been known to happen.

22 posted on 01/21/2022 10:27:56 AM PST by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" (Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius (170 BC - 86 BC))
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To: Twotone

” Are they going to charge the police with homicide?”

There is no such crime, homicide.


23 posted on 01/21/2022 10:28:15 AM PST by TexasGator (UF)
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To: nickcarraway
"Texas synagogue hostage-taker died from multiple gunshot wounds, coroner says"

Let's f'n hope so.

24 posted on 01/21/2022 10:30:03 AM PST by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne )
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To: nickcarraway

Obviously a suicide.......................


25 posted on 01/21/2022 10:31:43 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: Red Badger

What if the gunman Ran Into the bullets?


26 posted on 01/21/2022 10:32:58 AM PST by uranium penguin
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To: TexasGator

Dey killed ma homey!
It was homeycide!....................


27 posted on 01/21/2022 10:33:27 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: uranium penguin

Multiple times?..............


28 posted on 01/21/2022 10:33:54 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: nickcarraway

Has it been determined that he was really armed? Did the hostages actually see any weapon?


29 posted on 01/21/2022 10:36:31 AM PST by ladyjane
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To: nickcarraway

The question is if there were no more hostages, why shoot him?


30 posted on 01/21/2022 10:41:14 AM PST by sitetest (Professional patient. No longer mostly dead. Again. It's getting to be a habit.)
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To: Skywise

https://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/homicide

Homicide
The killing of one human being by another human being.

Although the term homicide is sometimes used synonymously with murder, homicide is broader in scope than murder. Murder is a form of criminal homicide; other forms of homicide might not constitute criminal acts. These homicides are regarded as justified or excusable. For example, individuals may, in a necessary act of Self-Defense, kill a person who threatens them with death or serious injury, or they may be commanded or authorized by law to kill a person who is a member of an enemy force or who has committed a serious crime. Typically, the circumstances surrounding a killing determine whether it is criminal. The intent of the killer usually determines whether a criminal homicide is classified as murder or Manslaughter and at what degree.

English courts developed the body of Common Law on which U.S. jurisdictions initially relied in developing their homicide statutes. Early English common law divided homicide into two broad categories: felonious and non-felonious. Historically, the deliberate and premeditated killing of a person by another person was a felonious homicide and was classified as murder. Non-felonious homicide included justifiable homicide and excusable homicide. Although justifiable homicide was considered a crime, the offender often received a pardon. Excusable homicide was not considered a crime.

Under the early common law, murder was a felony that was punishable by death. It was defined as the unlawful killing of a person with “malice aforethought,” which was generally defined as a premeditated intent to kill. As U.S. courts and jurisdictions adopted the English common law and modified the various circumstances that constituted criminal homicide, various degrees of criminal homicide developed. Modern statutes generally divide criminal homicide into two broad categories: murder and manslaughter. Murder is usually further divided into the first degree, which typically involves a premeditated intent to kill, and the second degree, which typically does not involve a premeditated intent to kill. Manslaughter typically involves an unintentional killing that resulted from a person’s criminal negligence or reckless disregard for human life.

All homicides require the killing of a living person. In most states, the killing of a viable fetus is generally not considered a homicide unless the fetus is first born alive. In some states, however, this distinction is disregarded and the killing of an unborn viable fetus is classified as homicide. In other states, statutes separately classify the killing of a fetus as the crime of feticide.

Generally, the law requires that the death of the person occur within a year and a day of the fatal injury. This requirement initially reflected a difficulty in determining whether an initial injury led to a person’s death, or whether other events or circumstances intervened to cause the person’s death. As Forensic Science has developed and the difficulty in determining cause of death has diminished, many states have modified or abrogated the year-and-a-day rule.

Justifiable or Excusable Homicide
A homicide may be justifiable or excusable by the surrounding circumstances. In such cases, the homicide will not be considered a criminal act. A justifiable homicide is a homicide that is commanded or authorized by law. For instance, soldiers in a time of war may be commanded to kill enemy soldiers. Generally, such killings are considered justifiable homicide unless other circumstances suggest that they were not necessary or that they were not within the scope of the soldiers’ duty. In addition, a public official is justified in carrying out a death sentence because the execution is commanded by state or federal law.

A person is authorized to kill another person in self-defense or in the defense of others, but only if the person reasonably believes that the killing is absolutely necessary in order to prevent serious harm or death to himself or herself or to others. If the threatened harm can be avoided with reasonable safety, some states require the person to retreat before using Deadly Force. Most states do not require retreat if the individual is attacked or threatened in his or her home, place of employment, or place of business. In addition, some states do not require a person to retreat unless that person in some way provoked the threat of harm. Finally, police officers may use deadly force to stop or apprehend a fleeing felon, but only if the suspect is armed or has committed a crime that involved the infliction or threatened infliction of serious injury or death. A police officer may not use deadly force to apprehend or stop an individual who has committed, or is committing, a misdemeanor offense. Only certain felonies are considered in determining whether deadly force may be used to apprehend or stop a suspect. For instance, a police officer may not use deadly force to prevent the commission of Larceny unless other circumstances threaten him or other persons with imminent serious injury or death.

Excusable homicide is sometimes distinguished from justifiable homicide on the basis that it involves some fault on the part of the person who ultimately uses deadly force. For instance, if a person provokes a fight and subsequently withdraws from it but, out of necessity and in self-defense, ultimately kills the other person, the homicide is sometimes classified as excusable, rather than justifiable. Generally, however, the distinction between justifiable homicide and excusable homicide has largely disappeared, and only the term justifiable homicide is widely used.


Homicide is not the word most of would have chosen and has not been used in similar situation in the past. The intention here is to confuse...................


31 posted on 01/21/2022 10:45:43 AM PST by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: nickcarraway

Good 👍


32 posted on 01/21/2022 10:45:45 AM PST by madison10
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To: PeterPrinciple

The intent is to blame the cops for shooting the poor confused and innocent jihadist after the hostages had all escaped. Though I guarantee there was no way for the cops to know that ahead of time.


33 posted on 01/21/2022 10:47:59 AM PST by Skywise
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To: bk1000

I’m sure it was Co vid.


34 posted on 01/21/2022 10:48:16 AM PST by rrrod (6)
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To: Mr. Lucky

What evidence do we have that he’s dead? The Biden administration’s word? Wray?


35 posted on 01/21/2022 10:49:42 AM PST by proust (All posts made under this handle are, for the intents and purposes of the author, considered satire.)
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To: sitetest

Because the cops probably didn’t know that ALL the hostages were out and there was no guarantee that he was the lone perpetrator nor that he wasn’t carrying a bomb.

It’s a battle zone and most times facts don’t come out until you have perfect hindsight.

Now HAD he come out, arms raised and surrendering and they shot him then there’d be a good point for malfeasance.

But he didn’t.


36 posted on 01/21/2022 10:51:28 AM PST by Skywise
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To: nickcarraway

I hope the FBI remembered to ask for the right pronouns before shooting, or they may be subject to disciplinary action.


37 posted on 01/21/2022 10:54:41 AM PST by Ironfocus
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To: BeauBo

“That was among the very few things that CNN could/would find to report.”

And that was misleading as the rest of the statement said this:

“Malik Faisal Akram’s manner of death was ruled a homicide, A FORENSIC CLASSIFICATION that indicates a death was caused by another person.”

It is a correct statement however it was smearing the lines as to a police or criminal action as the public has been led to believe homicide is a crime and not a generic statement.

wy69


38 posted on 01/21/2022 10:54:55 AM PST by whitney69
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To: whitney69

Another gun violence homicide of a minority added to the stats.


39 posted on 01/21/2022 10:58:12 AM PST by proust (All posts made under this handle are, for the intents and purposes of the author, considered satire.)
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To: nickcarraway

“Cytron-Walker, one of the final three hostages remaining after one was released, has said he eventually threw a chair at Akram after telling the two others to run. The three hostages escaped; an FBI team moved in, and Akram was killed, authorities said.”


40 posted on 01/21/2022 11:07:37 AM PST by plain talk
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